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Vox Pop-March 18

Posted: March 16, 2012 - 7:39pm

Costing kids too much

If only more of us could tell about the reprimands to people who speak out against the current school system. Those who move up in line to lose jobs, those who disagree with the current policies/projects without respect. I thought education was a place to bring your ideas on how to help kids, not to gain administrative accolades. We are costing too many kids too much.

Might be amazed

Maybe if our schools would get their heads out of books and iPads, they could learn about people and our area’s needs. You might be amazed how much you’ll succeed, how much help you’ll get and how much you will learn.

Don’t drink and drive

Hey lassies and laddies, don’t be drinking that green beer and steering your machine on good ol’ St. Pat’s Day. The coppers and cell phone vigilantes will be all around. Uffda!

We only hear one side

Keith Hansen’s opinion piece on discourse is interesting. He seems to indicate he believes opinion pieces should lead to discussion. How can a topic be discussed when the source of discourse only presents one side of the issue repeatedly? Time and time again, we only hear one side of the right to work issue. No one in the state of Minnesota is forced to join a union; they aren’t charged union dues. They’re assessed fair share fees should they choose not to join the union for the services the union must legally provide to all employees in that business.

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Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 03/16/12 - 11:59 pm
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Hey "One Side"

the taxpayers are forced to support/pay for your union. We don't want to join and don't want to reimberse your union dues to fight against us. That's not a "Fair Share" for us.

zachnos
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zachnos 03/17/12 - 07:27 am
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Benefits

If you are hired into a union shop, and you choose not to join the union, fine.... but just know that you may be the beneficiary of the union's efforts... wages, working conditions, scheduling -- and if you get it, shouldn't you pay at least something for it? That's the concept behind the 'fair share' idea. If you benefit from it and don't pay for it, isn't that just as unfair as 'having to' join a union?

tripwire3
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tripwire3 03/17/12 - 08:50 am
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Zachnos

If I am hired into a union shop and choose not to join that union, and the union chooses to give me those benefits anyway, should I be asked to pay anything?

If they are dumb enough to write that into the contract, then don't accuse me of being unfair. They're in the drivers seat, not me.

Brainnews
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Brainnews 03/17/12 - 10:02 am
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Then you do not want to share

Then you do not want to share in the benefits that the union has negotiated? is that the way it should be? union dues are paid by the members and not the district.
taxpayers do not pay for union shop. Members do.

Myeye08
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Myeye08 03/17/12 - 10:08 am
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A wise old

bird told me... "In hard times working for less is better than not working at all and if you think your worth is more than those who are working, chances are that you won't find work at all."

This old bird told me this during the Carter years and I found it to be true. I was working several part-time jobs, sometimes over fifty hours per week including nights, weekends and holidays, while my friends that carried a Union card were not working at all.

Myeye08
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Myeye08 03/17/12 - 10:16 am
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FnB

We are paying union dues for public sector employees every two weeks to protect them from a greedy employer...the tax payer! :)

JJP
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JJP 03/17/12 - 11:22 am
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Union members pay dues NOT the taxpayers

I have been a union employee working in the trades for 30 years. I pay my own dues. I have worked on jobs in right to work states. The wages are much lower and benefits are slim to none with the business owner being the sole beneficiary of the job and not fully compensating the laborer for his/her sweat. Unions keeps wages competative in Minnesota which in turn benefits all laborers. If a person has a problem working in a union shop and paying dues the simple solution is find non union employment. Let those of us that want the rights of collective bargaining, fair wages and labor rights do so.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 03/17/12 - 12:56 pm
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Public sector employees

pay their union dues with the money that the taxpayers pay them with. That means that the taxpayers are paying the union that is fighting them for more and more and more. We don't want to pay for your unions.

mission
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mission 03/17/12 - 02:00 pm
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Believe it or not, but...

'Fair n Balanced' has somehow concluded that school teachers should only be allowed to use their wages for goods and services that are "approved" by taxpayers.

Yeah that should work out real well.

Certainly all the nation's best teachers will be flocking to Brainerd to find out what they're allowed to buy.

loveanimals
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loveanimals 03/17/12 - 02:56 pm
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Fair and balanced?

The way people choose to spend the money they earn at work should not be scrutinized by people like you.

When teachers buy groceries in Brainerd, they help employ the folks who work at the grocery store, but I highly doubt that they are interested in telling those people how to spend their checks.

Hmmmm.....

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 03/18/12 - 11:44 am
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F & B

I guess I can tell how many school teachers are on here ehh? I didnt see you say teacher once. Now jj has to be a mason because he used the word sweat.

Brainnews
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Brainnews 03/18/12 - 11:55 am
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Teacher bashing

If you are bashing teachers, you are fighting a losing battle. Teachers are a respected members of society, as are plumbers, carpenters, small business owners, garbage haulers, fishing guides, retailworkers.....etc. Everyone deserves respect for the job they do. Let's get off this bandwagon.

ProudRINO
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ProudRINO 03/18/12 - 12:58 pm
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The scary thing

...is that the extreme radical right views expressed by some here fit right in with the predominant thought in the Grande Old Party in MN today!

Their politics are one of division and hate.

Their goal is to get one over and "win", NOT make things better for the citizens of the state! Everyone that disagrees with them is labeled. Any that would express what the majority of state residents would claim is a moderate view are painted as being far to the left on the issue.

Today in Wisconsin, residents there have been subjected to months of political ads and division in their communities over this issue. As bad as we see it in the weeks before a major election--it's been that way for months in WI! In a short while, some people are facing real recall threats in an election that is costing Wisconsin much more than $$.

This is what the republicans want for MN! Do you really want election season to start tomorrow? Ads on your TV every day? Major demonstrations and political rants in the news all the time--in Spring?

That's what MN is looking forward to if this legislation passes!

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 03/18/12 - 01:27 pm
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I didn't bash

any teachers, but the loony liberals screach like banshees and spew lies anyway.

Cheyenne43
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Cheyenne43 03/19/12 - 05:50 pm
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A favorite tactic of the rabid right,

spew garbage and then accuse the other side. You are so accomplished FUB (Fairly Un-Balanced). Does Fox or Karl Rove offer a seminar?

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 03/19/12 - 06:37 pm
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Slink away

until you have an intelligent comment. Your squeeking bothers most of us.

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