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Vox Pop- Oct. 16

Posted: October 14, 2011 - 3:46pm

They have it wrong

Demonstrators and Terry Sluss have it wrong. They think that giving them more money will create demand and then more jobs. Until this country stops leading the world in having the highest corprate income tax rate, the jobs will continue to flow overseas. Businesses and corporations must be able to compete in the world marketplace.

 

Lewd behavior should have been stopped

I have fond memories of bumping and grinding at the BHS homecoming dance back in the 90s. But alas! I went to college and got a job. Now I volunteer in the community and at church. I wish a chaperone would have put a stop to my lewd behavior before it was too late. 

(Editor’s note: The Vox Pop Dept. of Dance Trouble (DDT) will soon be assigning chaperones for future high school dances. The line starts with the VP contributor who wants to stop lewd behavior.)

 

People are lazy

The reason people protest against “the wealthy” is that they are lazy. Anyone can become wealthy, but you have to want it badly enough and work hard enough to do it. Most people aren’t willing to work hard enough and take the initiative to become wealthy. It’s so much easier for them to complain and protest about what they don’t have and expect the successful to support them.

 

Hearing through the no votes

Join me in voting no for the school referendum. It’s not that I don’t support education. I always have. It is that I don’t support the current administration’s decisions and values. I have spoken to them and written to them, but they continue to ignore what so many in the community want for their young people. Maybe you will hear through the no votes. It’s time for new leadership. Too bad it has to be done this way.

 

Were ribbons forgotten?

When did they have the Alzheimer’s walk? About two weeks ago? Well, did someone have Alzheimer’s and forget to take down the purple ribbons up and down South Sixth Street? I mean, come on people, if you’re going to have something, clean up afterwards.

 

Gray fox is a delight

The fox on Lyndon Lane is a gray fox. The gray fox has a gray body with a black line along the full length of the body clear to the tip of its bushy tail. They have a darker muzzle with a reddish gruff around the neck. The gray fox has shorter, stubby legs. It can climb trees, mates for life and both male and female bring food to the den. We’ve enjoyed having a den of gray fox in our neighborhood this summer and we have delighted watching the young. Also, we have no problems with mice or chipmunks.

 

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itterditter
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itterditter 10/14/11 - 07:26 pm
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Hearing through the no votes

Amen, if you question the current administration on anything, you are immediately dismissed, ask the person at the Nisswa meeting where our superintendent chastized her in front of everyone. Razidlo needs to go, we need a real leader, not a delagator.
Do we really need a $90,000 per year curriculum director? Do we really need a $100,000 per year director of schools (who could have retired years ago?) Do we need a $75,000 per year health and safety person who from what I hear is charge of contests? Do we really need a $80,000 per year technology director that majors in incompetence? 181 administrators, you just don't get it. This is why your referendum will fail. You don't listen, you just talk. The teachers, teacher assistants, work their butts off every day...what do you do???

fishhead
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fishhead 10/15/11 - 06:53 am
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So 99% of Americans are lazy?

So 99% of Americans are lazy? That's news to me.

wolfg1
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wolfg1 10/15/11 - 07:07 am
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Fish, They may call

Fish,

They may call themselves "the 99%", but they aren't. Especially when they have folks like Mike Moore, etc. supporting and speaking for them.

zachnos
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zachnos 10/15/11 - 08:41 am
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Too lazy to be wealthy?

I AM wealthy... I have my health, I had a good career and am now retired. My family is wonderful.... I am wealthy.

I am not lazy. I worked at the same job for 34 years, complete with wonderful times and very bad times. I sweated over several situations and reveled in others. I earned every dollar.

My definition of wealth is not necessarily making millions of dollars, and my definition of "lazy" is getting paid for bad work -- or none at all.

What I don't have is the follow through on the financial decisions I've made over the years. My wife and I worked hard to plan for the future; we followed all the 'conventional wisdom' when it came to retirement planning. Those retirement plans altered greatly when my retirement plan dropped a good 40 percent because those "unlazy" bankers made decisions that made that loss happen -- and then they got paid bonuses that would cover my annual income several times over.

When I talk about being part of the 99 percent, my main speech is that I want a level playing field. I want what I earned, and what I had planned for in good faith with a banking community that didn't keep up its part of the bargain.

wolfg1
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wolfg1 10/15/11 - 08:44 am
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Good post, Zach. Can't

Good post, Zach.

Can't disagree with you on that.

lakelander
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lakelander 10/15/11 - 09:24 am
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right, zachnos

When you and I were investing towards our retirement, the banks & investment firms were pushing high risk programs that ultimately sank. I don't believe we have only ourselves to blame. If we all had placed our earnings in the lowest risk investments, which also earned the lowest, we might be ahead of the game. CEOs must have tossed out that business principle that said, you only make money if your company makes money. They have been rewarded for failure. How does that feel to the rest of us? Any annual bonuses given to anyone on here for failing? How do you suppose it feels to those who work for banks and corporations when they see the salaries of their leaders skyrocket while they are either laid off or their salaries are frozen. And I personally exempt small local banks from this criticism. They are victims like the 99%ers.

RichRule peasantsdrool
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RichRule peasantsdrool 10/15/11 - 09:40 am
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Hey zach

It's called life. Get used to it. Noone promised you a rose garden, and remember, even the most beautiful rose has thorns. You're going to get pricked now and then.

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PseudonymDeleted 10/15/11 - 12:46 pm
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"While most Americans

"While most Americans wouldn't camp out in the freewheeling quasi-society that has sprung up in Lower Manhattan, the vast majority seem to share the protesters' sense that the economic deck is stacked. They've seen the government bail out the banks that helped create the economic crisis, seen corporate profits hit all-time high after all-time high, seen CEO pay balloon to 350 times that of the average worker. They've seen average hourly earnings (adjusted for inflation) stagnate for half a century while CEO pay increased 300 percent since 1990. They've seen social mobility decline and friends and neighbors join the ranks of the long-term unemployed while the wealthiest Americans have had their tax burden reduced and have increased their share of the nation's wealth."
Brian Montopoli- http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20120052-503544.html

If you're more of a visual learner, here are some handy-dandy charts for you to look through. - http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-...

MastersDegree
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MastersDegree 10/15/11 - 01:10 pm
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Good points.....

itterditter, you make some very valid points. My children and friends tell me about all the problems they experience with technology in the school system. The technology is in shambles. It appears that incompetence is rewarded instead of held accountable. I do know that if my company had the same issues the students and staff have to deal with daily in regards to technology, the person in charge would be walked out.

Maybe tenure protects them too. I'm not sure.

I do know that my wife and I will vote yes so my kids can get the some of the same experiences as my nephew does in the cities.

brainerddispatchmember
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brainerddispatchmember 10/15/11 - 03:28 pm
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If you vote "No"

Who ever wrote "Hearing Through No Votes - It’s not that I don’t support education." What do you think a "NO" vote means? - It means you do not support the children. If it is the current administration you do not care for then go after them. They will still have their paycheck either way. It is the children who will go without. Did you really think that by voting "no" that the children will have their needs taken care of and the Administration will receive a paycut. Well, think again. I agree, it is time for a new staff - but we need to support the children's education and vote "Yes, Yes" and then try to get some of the Administrative Brass out the door.
Please, when someone does something wrong - do not punish the children. Punish the person who does wrong.

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PseudonymDeleted 10/15/11 - 03:37 pm
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But...

Getting someone OUT of office isn't, unfortunately, as easy as getting someone INTO office.

Perhaps we need Recall elections every 6 months to replace those who aren't doing their jobs.

brainerddispatchmember
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brainerddispatchmember 10/15/11 - 03:55 pm
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Agree, It is hard to get someone out.

I Agree, it is hard to get someone out. And furthermore, very easy to do the opposite by voting no. But if it is the best interest of the children then maybe we should try to do what is right instead of doing what is wrong. We can not continue by taking the easy road. Sometimes the biggest gains are the hardest ones to get accomplish. Anyone want to start this process of whoever needs to replaced? Supporters will follow. We all want what is best for the children.

RichRule peasantsdrool
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RichRule peasantsdrool 10/15/11 - 05:32 pm
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"It's for the children"

mantra has died and needs to be put away. Give me a real reason instead of a cliche. Tell me what they will do with the money that will make little Billy so much smarter than he would be without. itterditter made some very good points as did the original poster. And please do not confuse a no vote as saying that someone does not support education. It is the kind of education and the direction that is being voted against.

fishhead
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fishhead 10/15/11 - 06:37 pm
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Yeah and people like RRpd are

Yeah and people like RRpd are quick to blame the amatuers for making bad decisions and let the professional banksters who wrecked the economy walk away with million dollar bonuses.

I guess it's our fault for expecting the game to be fair and honest when we deal with the looters.

wolfy would it make you happy if we called ourselves the 98.999999%'ers to account for Michael Moore? No I didn't think it would.

We saw the same thing during the time when the nicotine industry was finally being held to account. The Republican Noise Machine was blaming the smokers most of whom started as children while completely and I mean completely ignoring the 50 yr old nicotine executive that made a conscious decision to target those same children. Party of Life. Party of Morality. LOL!!!!

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smartguy 10/15/11 - 07:08 pm
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There Barnes goes again:

Said by Barnet:
"you'd better not be advocating suspension of the liberal brainwashing, with that crack about the kind of education. It would violate SG and the rest of the Left Wing teachers' rights to not let them preach their hearts desires to the children. They say that liberalisim isn't a religion and should be allowed in schools! Liberalism is just another disorder!"

Pretty dammming words from a man who has never stepped foot in my "office". Now, you can keep up with the predictable bashing of liberals (which, based on your diatribes, makes almost everyone else a liberal), but I would encourage you to stay away from the generalizations.

I know . .. .I know . . . .I must be a pinko or Commie or whatever other unflattering cliche you want to label me as. But where I come from, when one has a bonafide difference in opinion, we inquire further about why that opinion is held, instead of retorting with uncredible labels that supass hyperbole and venture into paranoia. Maybe I can try the Barnet method of debate, but I was led to believe ad hominem attacks showed a fallacy in logic.

Love, the Boogie Man . BOO!

truman
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truman 10/15/11 - 07:15 pm
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RRPD Give me a real reason instead of a cliche

RRPD: "Give me a real reason instead of a cliche", your quote. Have you bothered to look at the 181 website? There is a link inside that will answer all your questions concerning what the outcome will be as to the referendums passing or failing. An earlier poster is correct, voting No will not change the current administrators pay, it will only cut more teachers, aids and certain classes. What is wrong with the current education and direction that our children are receiving? Do you even live around here? I think NOT!!!

truman
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truman 10/15/11 - 08:56 pm
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barnet69

Agreed, And I agree again! I've taken my cut in the private sector. But, they are only going to cut where it effects the children, not at the administrative office. So what good does a no vote do? Will it help in the long run? I don't know........

itterditter
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itterditter 10/15/11 - 08:36 pm
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Barnet and Truman

What good did a no vote do in 2007? All of the threats of cuts to sports and transportation were all lies told by the previous superintendent. You will never get them to take a pay cut, but maybe some of the people I listed above should be eliminated.

truman
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truman 10/15/11 - 11:25 pm
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itterditter

Do you have any idea what your talking about? Do a little research!!! One school closed, transportation cuts, teachers cut, some shop classes cut, funding cuts for sports, the list goes on. Wow, you are really out of touch.

itterditter
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itterditter 10/15/11 - 09:11 pm
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truman

Don't you remember the list of sports and activities that were going to be cut but then never were?

itterditter
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itterditter 10/15/11 - 09:25 pm
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Truman again

My daughter was going to be in one of the sports that was scheduled to be cut. We explored sending her to a different school. But then, that sport was not cut.

zachnos
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zachnos 10/15/11 - 10:10 pm
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DEAR RICHRULE

That is just so much foofaraw.... When I buy a product, I have certain expectations in that product..... ESPECIALLY when I research it and buy into it in good faith. LIfe is tough .... like I've pointed out to you, your online name tells a lot about your compassion for others.

fishhead
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fishhead 10/15/11 - 10:19 pm
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The corporate tax rate could

The corporate tax rate could be zero and there still would be no way to compete with the low wages of India or China.

Should we have an across the board 50% wage cut for all Americans (except the CEO of course)?

75%?

90%?

Why is that only workers are told to sacrifice but the wealth keeps flowing to the wealthy as if we weren't in a recession?

RichRule peasantsdrool
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RichRule peasantsdrool 10/16/11 - 10:46 am
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China's wage increase.

SHANGHAI — The cost of doing business in China is going up.

Coastal factories are increasing hourly payments to workers. Local governments are raising minimum wage standards. And if China allows its currency, the renminbi, to appreciate against the United States dollar later this year, as many economists are predicting, the relative cost of manufacturing in China will almost certainly rise.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/business/global/08wages.html

The constant bellyaching about China may soon come to an end. With their booming economy will come higher wages until it is cheaper to not do business with them. Master Lock, General Electric, and Boeing are three that are increasing production. Add increase to wages overseas, and the high cost of fuel, many companies are finding it cheaper in the US.

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Lifelongresident 10/16/11 - 11:44 am
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I have to wonder Fish!

Day after day you post what is wrong with the United States (or 50% of its population) and capitalism. My question is to you; What form of government would you like to see the United States adopt?

brainerddispatchmember
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brainerddispatchmember 10/16/11 - 12:06 pm
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compete with china?

The only way we can compete with China's slave wages is to have a Tafiff on all imports. Fine they can do the same, but it will hurt them more than us. This would be a win/win for the United States. The Government having another tax to collect and also a win for the American workers. Yes, the cost of the tax will mean a higher cost for the goods to the consumer, but we have to pay the taxes somehow anyways.

lakesfan
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lakesfan 10/16/11 - 01:02 pm
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To "were ribbons forgotten?":

Instead of complaining here about something that obviously annoys you, why don't you figure out who to contact and then volunteer to go around and cut down the ribbons? The ribbons get removed, you can go on to complain about something else equally important, and all is right with the world.

lakelander
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lakelander 10/16/11 - 01:25 pm
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Brainerd Protest

Did they trash the grounds of city hall, barney?

smartguy
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smartguy 10/16/11 - 02:56 pm
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funny how . . . . .. . . .

Some people aren't happy unless they complain. Barnet appears to be one of those people.

Good luck with that disposition.

RichRule peasantsdrool
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RichRule peasantsdrool 10/16/11 - 04:38 pm
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smartguy

I've noticed you never make a comment about anything unless it is directed personally at barnet69. Are you infatuated with this poster or do you not have anything intelligent to say?

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