Crow Wing County Commissioner Paul Thiede is right. We did fight a war with Europe and those traffic roundabouts being proposed for the College Drive project seem vaguely European to me as well.
Technically, I guess we never fought a war with Europe — we’ve fought with and against various European nations at different times. But the point is, they’re not the boss of us anymore.
Do Brainerd and Baxter residents want a mustached, white-gloved French gendarme blowing his whistle at them and frantically waving them through a College Drive intersection? Non! Not me! It may start out innocently with European-styled roundabouts, but how long will it be before we’re reduced to wearing little berets and carrying long loaves of French bread on our back as we bicycle home on College Drive?
Thiede’s comments were made at Tuesday’s county board meeting where he said he has driven many roundabouts and his aversion to them is not a fear of the unknown. I guess the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
“Being a good American that I am and thinking that we fought a war with Europe over some things, this is one of those things that seems to me to be European,” Thiede said.
Darn right it is. There’s a long list of European influences that have been creeping into American life. In the immortal words of another good American, Deputy Barney Fife, we’ve got to nip it. Nip it in the bud!
Here are more European influences which I’d call to your attention.
• Beer gardens — Had Oak Lawn Township approved a beer garden for Crow Wing County Fair it wouldn’t have been long before the lederhosen, the beer steins and the German songs would have followed suit.
• Wine — Most of us can’t pronounce the names. Waitresses are clearly embarrassed for me when I struggle to order sauvignon blanc or Gewürztraminer. Tired of it.
• Automobiles — Perhaps the Volkswagens, Audis and other European automobiles are specifically designed to handle roundabouts. Where will that leave the drivers of U.S.-made vehicles?
• Lutefisk — Any Scandinavian descendants want to defend that stuff? Really?
• Railroads — Europe’s railroads are widely praised as an efficient way to transport people, particularly in congested areas. Americans built a transcontinental rail line from east to west to show we could do it and then invented the airplane and the interstate highway system so we wouldn’t have to ride in those drafty train cars.
• Dutch treat dates — Try that idea out on your red-blooded American sweetheart this Valentine’s Day. See how it works for you.
• Scotch tape — The darn tape segments scrunch up into an unsightly mess every time I try to wrap a Christmas present.
• Trees — What’s wrong with American pines? Why did Minnesota have to pick the Norway Pine as its state tree?
• Athletics — Soccer fans insist on calling their favorite sport football and claim that it makes more sense because their athletes can’t use their hands. And why do we continue to use Roman numerals to identify the Super Bowls?
Europe’s influence continues to dog the United States, in everything from cooking to those little outdoor cafes one sees on sidewalks. It’s time to stand up for America and draw the line at European-style traffic roundabouts.
In the approximate words of another good American, “Give me stoplights or give me death!”
MIKE O’ROURKE, associate editor, may be reached at mike.orourke@brainerddispatch.com or 855-5860.



Comments (7)
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Swift couldn't have done much better.
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We saw the green road worker's vests in Europe long before they became common here. Good show Mike!
Mike, a few questions for you
This article is a terrible attempt at humor, are you the vox pop editor?
Mike, do you have the extra money in your endless funds for this project? I am sure you must since you think these roundabouts are such a good idea that we must have them or am I assuming?
You must have the nearly $8 million more the roundabouts will cost and surely it wont break your bank, cuz, son, our national and state bank is already BROKE and they do not have it so you must want to pay for it.
Why not spend it, I mean we are only in the red, why not go farther into the red right Mike?
I mean, it's only another $8 million dollars, we all have that right Mike? Our government surely has that doesnt it Mike, so I will assume you do since our town with 15+% unemployment surely doesnt have the money for the extra taxes needed to raise it.
But wait, our town definitely has the money, right Mike, since they couldnt do a decent job plowing because it would have costed too much, so OBVIOUSLY we have the $8 million for the roundabout, right Mike?
Icy roundabouts, those will be a fun filled accident waiting to happen in the winter but they are a good idea in the balmy north where snow and ice is extremely common from October to May right Mike? But we need them for Senior' Speedy Gonzalez's personal race track/bumper car ride in the summer, right Mike?
Do you want to pay the deductibles and raises in insurance Mike? I mean its obvious you have the extra $8 million the roundabouts will cost so you must have the extra dough for the deductibles and insurance premium raises right Mike?
I bet NO would be the answer to most, or am I just being silly like your article MIke?
I will go on and on, but I am done being silly, Mike, I suggest you do the same. Quit being silly and do a real article on our cities elected officials WASTING money on this project when there isnt any money to be wasted because ALL of our levels of government are deeply in the red.
Change, yeah change is good, but this shouldnt be about the change you want, it should be about the change we can't afford and frankly, we cant afford either change on College Road can we Mike?
nathanberg, check the cost of roundabouts
nathanberg,
The total cost of the College Drive Project isn’t reflective of the exorbitant cost because of roundabouts.
If traffic signals were used in place of roundies, the cost would exceed $8.47 million and the maintenance would be ongoing, whereas with roundies, the cost of maintenance is negligible.
Roundies will be problematic because of the unfamiliarity to most drivers and somebody made the point earlier…
One little fender bender will cause serious delays at the busiest times.
The bottom line for me on this project is the 4 lanes will increase traffic volume (less safe) and total cost for 1 mile of road…it is ridiculous!
Jeff
Intersection Costs
I thought it was a funny article - it points out the ridiculusness of the objections.
nathanberg,
The first cost of any two choices (even ‘do nothing’) is a poor way to compare. Life-cycle cost is the best. For intersections, 20-years is a common period to compare. When comparing modern roundabouts to signals for a 20-year time period, modern roundabouts usually win. Factors to consider: first cost (construction), operation and maintenance (electricity, re-striping, etc.), crashes, daily delay, daily fuel consumption, pollution, area insurance rates. Each of these things, and others, can be estimated for any two choices and everyone near or using the intersection will pay some portion of all of these costs.
the costs of intersection
Cost - WE DONT HAVE MONEY TO SPEND SCOTT DO WE?
Operation and maintenence - Brainerd dropped the ball on plowing this year, can you imagine going around one of those things when they are glare ice? I can, and I have, it isnt easy and accidents will be a norm. And Brainerd will drop the ball again and make those things non-navicable. Also, when they put in the several million in landscaping, someone will have to water, mow, replant, etc every year, every week, some daily, etc. So was that extra cost put into the $8.4 million budget? NOPE! So there is extra cost.
costs - we have a $600 g alternative that will work.
Crashes, daily delay, daily fuel consumption, etc - I havent seen a crash at the intersections for quite a while and I travel it daily. Daily delay, it takes me less than 2 minutes to get through the college drive/48 intersection and I travel it multiple times daily,who doesnt have 2 extra minutes in their lives?
area insurance rates - please explain this one to me, cuz you really lost me on that one.
Daily fuel consumption, ARE YOU KIDDING? I drive it every day and my idle time through the year would be maybe 2 gallons of gas for the year. Maybe car pool if you are worried about the price of idling 1 minute of idling or walk or ride bike, etc. Yeah, I know, multiply it by the cars traveling it blah blah.
pollution - please see above.
I drive down sw 4th or sw 6th. every day, do not have a long delay getting out, so there is no need for traffic lights there. Traffic lights were just put in a few years ago at college square so no need to replace them. As for that intersection, I sit and wait about 2-3 times a week at a 2 minute maximum, the other 2-3 days I go right through with the rest of the traffic on a green light. That road is not that busy.
I look at the price and the roundabout project is $8.4 million, that is what I am talking about but I know vincent, I know you just like arguing with me because you have nothing better to do.
The price of this project is a serious issue. Once again, WE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY. Not to hard to understand, all you need to do is look the website for our national debt and see that we have a debt of over $52,000 per person and and when we have a state debt that is over $9000 per person, I do know that if I personally had $61,000 in unsecured debt I wouldnt get a loan for anything.
I know you just like arguing with me?
Nathanberg,
I find no enjoyment arguing with you and I only requested you realize the actual costs of roundies.
I only pointed out the cost of the project isn’t because of roundies as you’ve suggested many times over.
I know of other people besides you that drive the road frequently with identical issues as yours, and believe it or not, I agree with them primarily because I trust what they tell me.
Try not to take a friendly suggestion as a personal insult.
Stay thirsty my friend,
Jeff
Good thing your population is
Good thing your population is only 12 or 14,000 or you would be wanting an areal clover leaf. That little school is just not worth it. Hey, how about going easy on all the rest of us tax payers.
humor is good
thanks for a chuckle today Mike, that was hilarious!