The killing of 20 innocent children in Newtown, Conn. was indeed horrendous and tragic.
That same day, at least 3,000 other innocent children in the United States were aborted in the name of choice, inconvenience, or for many other specious reasons.
Isn’t all murder of innocent children — even the hidden ones, “legal” or otherwise — horrendous and tragic?
Peter D. Abler
Crosslake
Comments (28)
Add commentNews Flash for you Peter Pan !
You want to actually do something besides whine to prevent abortions ?
Your in luck !
Look up Planned Parenthood address and mail then a donation.
Put your money where your mouth is.
No organization in America does more to prevent abortion.
Hard to disagree with their long standing success.
I think Lil' Cappy
fell out of the Jeep and bumped his head.
Speaking of Hypocrisy , Thought UBO would be at the funeral
For that outstanding Republicon Supreme Court nominated justice!
Robert Bork who passed on quietly this week.
You conservatives remember him , he fired the Nixon Special Watergate prosecutor, after his boss the Attorney General refused to and quit , then the Asst AG was also fired same reason. ( No flash forwards to " I like to fire people")
However Mr Bork will be remembered fondly by some yahoos for being the first abortion fighting S Court Justice to ever get 58 NO votes from the US Senate. A record for a nominee.
Mr Bork agreed with a ruling that American Cyanimid (Chemical Company) was well with in their rights to demand that women employees be sterilized , be fired ,or offered lower paying jobs.
Four or five women did just that . Rest left the Co.
Just think a conservative judge fighting abortion for his party and the benefit of Job Creators !!!!
The more things change ,the more they stay the same for those stuck in the past.
Now I know I
got that last comment right.
Cap
FYI the funeral for Bork is Saturday, so you may get your wish.
One more on the list that you won't have to kick around anymore. You do have a never ending list.
WOW Capt Cup-Cake, You're
WOW Capt Cup-Cake,
You're either the tackiest dudes around or a complete moron (or perhaps both). Bork isn't even in the ground and you don't have the common decency to refrain from tarnishing everything that the man did in his life because of your partisan politics.
I'll make sure I show you the same respect when you grace us with your ultimate departure.
Hey Guys/Gals
Cap can stand proud before his maker too.The Humanzee!!!Watched part of Jesse V's conspiracy theory the other night about the ape/man thing.
Proud of me now Mav?? LOL
OFB,
how bout I pick you up and we start at Lefty's and go down into the gutter joint later?
Thank you Peter
For pointing out this horrible fact. Our liberal friends don't consider that abortion is murder which it is!
False moral equivalence . . .
may be at work here? This is LONG, and it's not "pro-life" as many of you are fond of defining it here, so feel free to skip over it with a quick thumbs-down, and carry on.
. . . abortion and the massacre of actual 6-yr. old children "are not identical and they are not equivalent. ______ knows this. Every moral intuition he has screams that these things are not equivalent.
We all know this. All of us. Even those of us who have staked our rhetoric, our politics, and our moral reasoning on the glib pretense that it is not so.
Every “pro-life” evangelical, every Operation Rescue picketer, every March for Life participant, every Christianity Today editorialist, every Catholic bishop, priest and pope knows that the murder of 20 children is essentially different and far worse than any 20 abortions. All their beloved rhetoric of “abortion is murder” and “abortion kills unborn children” turns to ashes in the wake of incidents like the slaughter in Newtown.
It seemed so simple. Declare that “personhood begins at conception” and everything clicks neatly into place. You can then insist that no ethical or moral distinction exists between a fetus and a child, between a zygote and a 6-year-old. And ethics seems so much simpler when we don’t have to make or acknowledge distinctions. Then we can have thick black lines and unambiguous rules. We can make sweeping ethical claims with the certainty and clarity we have always coveted.
That certainty and clarity is a delicious indulgence. It means we don’t even have to listen when others point out the distinctions that might threaten our clear, bold lines. When others try to argue that a fetus has great value, but not the same value as a child or as a mother, we can dismiss them as apologists for “murder.”
The simplicity and clarity of this claim of personhood-from-conception is so appealing that most of the time it more than makes up for the persistent nagging intuition that it’s not true. The appeal is almost enough to overcome the sense we can never be rid of that a zygote and a 6-year-old are obviously different, and that pretending the two are equivalent is deeply offensive to some moral intuition that we can never wholly silence.
And when, as on Friday, something horrific happens to force us to remember that, then even someone like James Dobson — one of the most forceful and vocal proponents of the “abortion is murder” claim — is unable to maintain the pretense.
That pretense is corrosive. It is rotting the hearts, minds, souls and tongues of good Christian people. And it has to stop."
Read the names of the slain children: the precious persons murdered Friday in Newtown.
Then go ahead and give it your best shot. Try to sustain the pretense. Try to tell yourself that this is no different from 20 abortions. Try to tell yourself that every fetus, every zygote, every frozen embryo at a fertility clinic, is morally and ethically and theologically and legally identical to these 20 children. Try to tell yourself that every abortion does and should sadden you just exactly as much as the cruel snuffing out of each of these sacred young lives.
Can you do that? Can you sustain that pretense?
Poor ______ gave it his best shot, but he failed. I don’t think you can do it either. I don’t think you should.
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/12/18/why-james-dobson-is-...
morals
I don't fit any of the categories, but I did read the comment.
I'm still pro-life, but am not able to say that one life is worth
more than another.
Bubba, everyone knows that the issue centers around
the point at which personhood begins. And, we all know that conception and 6 years of age are miles apart. But you've just given us thirteen paragraphs of impassioned verbal theatrics and never once explained, or even atttempted to explain, when personhood does begin. We might take you a little more seriously if you would.
DUH , Tripwired = Read the GOP Party Platform
The inception , thus conception of the crackpot ideal that personhood as the newest republicon ploy ( re abortion) is spelled out right there in the GOP party platform.
Conception = Personhood
Now you know what the origin & definition of "Personhood" is.
What more could you possibly need to know ?
The question normal people would ask is ( and we would take you more seriously if you had asked it) ......
Who dreamed that up ? and why ?
Duh,Ready for another
joint and Jeep ride?
Colklink
What does the nature of personhood and when it begins and how we can know it with any degree of certainty have to do with the GOP? Who cares what the GOP party says?
The point is, it takes just as much faith to believe that personhood begins at birth as it does to believe that it begins at conception.
Try adjusting your monacle next time. ;)
Too much pot
in one's younger days tends to make one a bit confused in later life.
Confusion regarding the origins of law , must be redefined ?
Oh thats right everything is fair game for redefinition .
Or maybe just another republicon created distraction from the real world.
Frankly its good the yahoos with really flawed logic inhabit mostly rural areas ,dont think they would stand a chance to survive in urban areas very long.
Tripwired find yourself a person in the legal profession and ask them what impact a new improved " Personhood Amendment " to our Constitution would have on the rule of law in this country.
Your right about one thing who cares what the GOP party thinks , its obvious they dont are about any relevant things .
For the "Dodge City Kansas" gun folks , US Rep. Huelkamp (R) Dodge City KS, that Tea Party yahoo was one of several Congressman who lost his committee post this week , thanks to John Boehner ( R) OH Speaker of the US House.
Therefore that republicon leadership move helped result in tonights traditional Conservatives in Congress speeding the country towards a cliff once again .( For the sake of our childrens ,childrens ,children)
Can you say financial fiasco ?
Or should that be redefined also ?( maybe to include a min. 400 point drop in the DOW)
I think you might be correct regarding your position
about faith . . . and what it takes to extend "belief" sometimes.
Who's driving the jeep
tonight?
Obama is clearly driving
this nation over the cliff you fools love!
Lil' Cappy fell out and bumped his haid!
BUBBA YUMBO
Your lengthy dissertation makes a good point. No one, unless they lost one of those children can understand the pain they feel and under that circumstance you are correct. However, the millions of abortions which have been done in our country have taken away the lives of those unborn children and in untold numbers of cases caused pain to the nth degree. That pain may not be as acute and instantaneous as it is for the ones who lost their children in CT but for many the pain goes on and on and is similar. Each case is horrendous and can not be overlooked.
Thank you for your reasonable comment, sir (ORT)
In your opinion, how do we deal with the millions of children who die every year from preventable diseases. We are all very well aware of the children who die. What do we do?
OFB
We are right. This fish was almost as easy as SR the B!
bubba, the term abortion,
bubba, the term abortion, means to end something. How doesn't it mean to end a life?