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Yes, to marriage

Posted: October 10, 2012 - 7:00pm

Passage of the marriage protection amendment ensures that the people of Minnesota themselves, and not activist judges or politicians, decide how our state will define marriage in the future.

Without a marriage amendment in our Constitution, activist judges or politicians can substitute their values for those of the people of Minnesota. This is exactly what happened elsewhere.

The marriage protection amendment ensures that if activists want to redefine marriage in the future, they must receive the approval of voters to do so.

Addie Baumann

Crosslake

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fishhead
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fishhead 10/11/12 - 07:00 am
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So?

So?

captron
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captron 10/11/12 - 07:17 am
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Politicians substitute their values over the values of others ?

Now theres a deplorable misguided concept Michele Bachmann expects from the Muslim Brotherhood that are taking over our country.

twilight
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twilight 10/11/12 - 08:47 am
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Robert Saxton in Star Trib in Sept.

"Gay marriage is already illegal in Minnesota -- meaning that the state doesn't recognize a family when it sees one.

So, why have we spent all the time and money to place the question on the ballot this November? Well, the stated reason is to protect marriage from the scary, deviant gays who will surely do something terrible to the institution by, well, honoring it.

The real reason it's on the ballot is to create an issue that will excite and encourage social conservatives to come to the voting booths this November and vote against Democrats. This is right out of the Karl Rove and ALEC playbook: make 'em scared, make 'em mad, make 'em vote."

http://www.startribune.com/opinion/commentaries/171613531.html

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/11/12 - 08:48 am
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Yeah, you like it when the elitists can usurp the people...

...don't you, Fish? Voting yes gives us time to have a full public debate on this issue and if the public can be swayed that gays can provide the same benefits to society as a couple that heterosexual couples can, then they can put another amendment referendum together and vote to enshrine homosexual marriage in our constitution. Until then, the peoples' will be the law of the land, not a handful of activist judges' will.

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/11/12 - 08:50 am
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And Twilight, you couldn't be more wrong about the rationale

for the amendment. There are already court cases in the pipeline to challenge our state's definition of marriage. It's the homosexuals that have forced this issue, not people who believe marriage between a man and a woman serves a unique and irreplaceable service to society.

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JamesBond 10/11/12 - 09:17 am
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Our Activist Judges, Not Your Activist Judges

Conservatives think that the people are wise enough to always vote constitutionally. What happened to Prop. 8 in California when the people voted? Thank goodness we have a judiciary that can throw out discriminatory votes from our enlightened electorate.

Conservatives love activist judges when they rule the way they want, but hate the judicial branch when they rule the way they do not like.

Sock it to them Joe tonight and expose these radicals for who they really are, a couple of lying right-wing idealogues whose policies would ruin this country.

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dean1961 10/11/12 - 09:17 am
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twilight

Personally this is a non-issue for me but I am curious as to why liberals always link to other people's opinion pieces. The only thing that shows is that you either can't think for yourself or you don't have the ability to express yourself.

twilight
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twilight 10/11/12 - 09:22 am
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Actually, heterosexuals under the age of 30

will determine the outcome of this amendment. Seniors by and large will not understand it. Or not vote for either amendment. Just guessing here, so don't get your undies in a bunch.

Dean: when someone states my beliefs better than I could, I pay more attention. And I remember their words.

Like this: "Give me your tired, your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these the homeless, tempest-tossed to me. I lift my light beside the golden door."

JamesBond
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JamesBond 10/11/12 - 09:27 am
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Why Other Peoples Opinion Pieces?

You really do not know why people include other, reputable and topic related experts? Could it be that liberals do have reputable and topic related experts to corroborate their own opinions and conservatives only have their own opinions? Ever hear of adding weight to your arguments? I guess not since you conservatives have a very hard time finding such reputable and topic related experts.

twilight
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twilight 10/11/12 - 09:45 am
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Dutchman

That is interesting that LBJ was against the Civil Rights Act but promoted it in JFK's honor.

And I remember those days of chaos and turmoil on campus. It feels like that today, but much less civil.

JamesBond
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JamesBond 10/11/12 - 09:50 am
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Older People Against Marriage Equality

I also believe that the older generation has the hardest time understanding this issue and as time passes the question will be what was all the fuss about. WhitePages.com shows Addie as being 65+. I wonder if the online posters here against marriage equality fit that demographic?

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wolfg1 10/11/12 - 10:09 am
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???

Will polygamists be treated equally also? I mean, it's all about love, right?

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Lifelongresident 10/11/12 - 10:20 am
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I'm wondering

when the movement will start to ban heterosexual marriage?

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/11/12 - 10:47 am
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Bond, you are so ridiculous...

When I was in college I didn't see anything wrong with homosexual marriage. As I got older and got more serious about the meaning of life I reassessed my earlier, quite frankly, thoughtless position on the issue. In addition, I find your implication that old people are less thoughtful and wise than young people not only offensive, but untrue. And I say this as someone who is nearly a generation younger than Addie.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 10/11/12 - 10:49 am
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JaneBond

lives with parents.

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dutchman7 10/11/12 - 11:18 am
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We could discriminate...but won't...However...A proponent...

John Clayton Nienstedt (born March 18, 1947)...

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/11/12 - 11:52 am
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You could discriminate...

...and have. Remember Chick-fil-A? Remember Catholic Charities highly successful adoption program in MA that had to be shut down? In Vermont, people have been fined for not wanting to participate in providing services to gay marriages. Passing the amendment does nothing to affect homosexuals being able to marry in any faith tradition that allows it, nor does it speak to their right to live where they like or work at any job they are qualified to do. What it does do is recognize that there are over 50% of the people who do not share the view that homosexual marriage is the same as heterosexual marriage and that they should not be persecuted for having that belief.

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OldFarmBoy 10/11/12 - 12:19 pm
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Judith

Well I do believe that little bond is still on PB&J'S for his diet ehh?? Is he calling us older than 65? Even the two I always pick on are not that old. Well maybe F&B is. Just kidding there old boy!!!!

JamesBond
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JamesBond 10/11/12 - 12:21 pm
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Oooo...those pesky facts!

Star Tribune, September 17, 2012:

"Young, old divide over Minnesota's marriage amendment"
" Age is a defining factor in who supports marriage amendment."

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/169981126.html?refer=y

Excerpt:

"From California to Maine, an overriding thread that stitched together residents across the country is that younger voters tend to oppose the amendments and older voters generally support them."

Ooooo....those pesky facts and statistics. They are bothersome, aren't they?

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/11/12 - 12:39 pm
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That doesn't prove a thing, Bond...

...other than the fact the young have been inundated by pro-homosexual propaganda their entire lives. As I said, I was pro-homosexual marriage when I was younger. I simply didn't understand what the purpose of marriage was in the bigger scheme of things. Was I smarter when I was younger? I don't think so.

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LibsAreWrong 10/11/12 - 12:53 pm
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Why not compromise like adults?

While I deplore the left's attempt to redefine marriage (of which I have enjoyed with my wife for the past 18 years) I don't harbor any ill will towards any gay couple who wants the legal right to make a lifelong and legal commitment to their partner. I think civil unions are the way to go which would allow gay couples the same rights as married couples without redefining marriage for the rest of us. If the rest of us have to go through the legal debacle of divorce when a marriage doesn't work, who are we to keep that same wonderful experience from being enjoyed by our gay friends and neighbors?
These types of issues can be worked out with an actual experienced leader in the White House (like Romney) instead of an inexperienced leftist ideologue like Obama who has failed again and again in his feeble attempts to lead this nation (which consist of imposing his extremist will regardless of the resistance). America deserves better.

JamesBond
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JamesBond 10/11/12 - 12:57 pm
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Ostriches - Head In the Sand

From Gallup:

"For First Time, Majority of Americans Favor Legal Gay Marriage
Republicans and older Americans remain opposed"

http://www.gallup.com/poll/147662/first-time-majority-americans-favor-le...

"Support for legal gay marriage decreases markedly with age, ranging from 70% support among those aged 18 to 34, to 39% support among those 55 and older. More broadly, support is highest among younger women and lowest among older men."

The facts corroborate what I said about older voters being against the amendment, no matter what some people try their best to argue. Like an ostrich, you can keep you head in the sand and ignore the facts... that is a conservative trait.

LibsAreWrong
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LibsAreWrong 10/11/12 - 01:15 pm
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Its about wisdom not liberal ideology

Wisdom comes with age bond. The fact that 18 year olds support something should make the average 'adult' cringe and run from it. When you get older and earn some of that wisdom, you'll understand.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 10/11/12 - 01:17 pm
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I told you people that Jane

isn't lucid. She thinks that what the Star Tribune says are facts.

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/11/12 - 02:07 pm
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I think LAW pretty much sums it up, Bond...

Youth does not equal wisdom, nor do youthful ideas necessarily survive maturity (unless of course you are perpetual child, like many in the Democrat base). Your surveys are meaningless, because they deal with people with virtually no life experience. Rather like the youngsters who thought it was a good idea to vote for Mr. Hope and Change and four years later realize that wasn't such a great idea!

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sadiemarriedlady 10/11/12 - 02:40 pm
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Bond

You looked up the writer in the white pages?
Makes me wonder what else you would do with someone who disagrees with you. I see no reason to look anyone up in the white pages.

JamesBond
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JamesBond 10/11/12 - 02:59 pm
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Back At You

"I find your implication that old people are less thoughtful and wise than young people not only offensive, but untrue. "

I find your implication that young people are less thoughtful and wise than old people not only offensive, but untrue.

Sadie, it is amazing what you can find on the Internets!

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Bubba Yumbo 10/11/12 - 03:04 pm
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The Morrison County Record (Little Falls) recently ran their

editorial board's position on this issue:

http://mcrecord.com/archives/517529/vote-no-on-ill-considered-marriage-a...

Vote "NO" on both intrusive, freedom-limiting, BIG gov't. amendments.

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rubbyk 10/11/12 - 03:07 pm
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Kinda goes with the thread

“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

Winston Churchill

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