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Vote no, twice

Posted: October 9, 2012 - 4:41pm

Vote no twice

Let’s vote no twice to keep Minnesota nice!

The two proposed constitutional amendments on the November ballot are unnecessary “fixes” looking for non-existent “problems” to solve.

Minnesota law already defines marriage as being between one woman and one man. The anti-gay marriage amendment seems to be just plain mean-spirited and would serve to enshrine bigotry and discrimination in our state’s constitution. Surely we are a better people than this.

Minnesota has long served as a model of the democratic process with unusually high voter turnouts, year after year. The proposed Voter ID amendment would serve to suppress the vote. Why would we want to do that? Voter fraud in the form of people at the polls pretending to be someone else is not a problem here, or anywhere else in America.

Perhaps the Minnesota legislature got carried away in putting forth these ballot initiatives. Let’s forgive them and move on.

Keep Minnesota nice, and vote no twice!

Sarah Gorham

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Scribbles
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Scribbles 10/09/12 - 08:13 pm
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muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/09/12 - 08:27 pm
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I'll tell you what's mean-spirited...

...trying to prevent Dan Cathy from opening new Chick-fil-A's because he publicly stated he believed in the Biblical definition of marriage. You want to know who the fascists are? Look in the mirror.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 10/09/12 - 08:58 pm
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I gotta

YES YES at my house. How many votes were in that DFL judges' trunk Sarah? How was it that they had more votes than voters in that Saint Louis County precinct? The fraud is people like you promoting those lies.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 10/09/12 - 09:13 pm
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not funny

dutch

twilight
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twilight 10/09/12 - 10:13 pm
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"Biblical Definition of Marriage", meuhlbau?

Like polygamy and the widow being forced to marry her BIL?

We have evolved past those "Biblical Marriage Laws", right?

I doubt Baxter would turn away a Chick-Fil-A.

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JamesBond 10/09/12 - 10:45 pm
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Are We Nice?

I certainly hope so Sarah. Both of these amendments are unnecessary and very divisive. Not something we should be putting into our Constitution.

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mav7770 10/09/12 - 11:38 pm
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Were approaching 17 trillion

Were approaching 17 trillion in debt and we are voting on THIS crap? How bout we vote on balancing the budget first and when that's done, we can vote on these ones?

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JohnnyJing 10/10/12 - 06:59 am
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Sarah yours and 48,000 other votes didn't count

"Voter fraud in the form of people at the polls pretending to be someone else is not a problem here, or anywhere else in America."

Untrue. According to the lawsuit filed against state of MN and Crow Wing County. We still have 48,000 ineligible voters from the 2008 election.

Ignorance is bliss, just because you do not want to see voter fraud doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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nursepat1 10/10/12 - 07:55 am
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Nice!

Seems like James and Johnny got it right! I agree with voter ID but some things do not belong in our constitution.

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ProudRINO 10/10/12 - 08:17 am
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Read the Dispatch, JJ--your smoking gun has no merit

From the August 17th edition: "A federal lawsuit regarding voting rights, which named the state and Crow Wing County as defendants, was dismissed Friday.

Federal Judge Donovan Frank dismissed the challenge to same-day registration from two conservative groups and seven individuals who contended ineligible voters cast ballots in 2008 and 2010, the Associated Press reported, drawing from a Minnesota Public Radio report.

The AP reported Frank’s ruling found no federal laws were broken and the groups failed to unearth misconduct or fully pursue their case in state courts. "

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twilight 10/10/12 - 08:52 am
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ProudRINO,

I watched Mary Kiffmayer denounce the 48,000 missing voter myth on Almanac. And she was promoting the amendment. I think that just shows someone's ignorance to keep repeating a lie. Didn't Mitt Romney say his little boys did that? Kept telling lies and expecting to be believed eventually?

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zachnos 10/10/12 - 09:43 am
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Just because

a lawsuit is filed with a certain number doesn't mean that number is accurate.... according to a research done by a MN group that I've quoted here often, there were 117 cases of voter fraud that went to trial as a result of the 2008 election. Passing a Voter ID/Photo requirement may just end up creating a whole new black market for photo ID counterfeiters.... passing a law won't stop those who are intent on cheating.

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JohnnyJing 10/10/12 - 09:54 am
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Lawsuit dismissed by federal judge in voters' rights, Appealed

“We disagree with the opinion,” said Andy Cilek, Minnesota Voters Alliance president, said Friday afternoon, adding the federal venue was the proper place for the issue not the state courts. “It’s our view the judge failed to address our constitutional arguments. We filed for an appeal, a notice of appeal, this afternoon. ... This is a federal court decision so we disagree with the court.”

http://brainerddispatch.com/news/2012-08-17/lawsuit-dismissed-federal-ju...

Sounds like it is still alive and well in the court system.

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charlie m 10/10/12 - 10:07 am
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PURPOSED-

A BIG FAT DITTO-DITTO-DITTO DITTO. You're exactly RIGHT.

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/10/12 - 10:22 am
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Have we "evolved" Twilight?

So what you're saying it's not allowed to believe in the New Testament Biblical ideal of marriage (i.e., one man and one woman, for life, which is absolutely what Christ taught). Thank you for proving my point about the intolerance of those who want to redefine the meaning of marriage.

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twilight 10/10/12 - 10:42 am
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Boy those "Catholics Voting No" signs

Appeared overnight after Sunday in Mpls. Lots of members upset about the huge amount to be spent from the coffers for something they do not accept...that some people are more equal than others.

You can believe whatever, but I notice a lot of cherry picking and editing of verses. Just sayin'.

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JohnnyJing 10/10/12 - 11:18 am
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The Crow Wing Lawsuit Judge Frank Clinton Appointee

Thanks for the inspiration to do research Wino.

The Judge in the Crow Wing State of MN Lawsuit. Donovan W. Frank was appointed by President William Clinton and took the oath of office on November 2, 1998.

That would explain a possible explanation of "dismissal" in a lawsuit targeting the liberal illegitimate power base. Appointed by the one who "it depends on what is, is," and had his law license revoked for lying.

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stevebusch 10/11/12 - 11:13 am
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Gays should marry two or more

Gays should marry two or more gay guys. . In 5 generations- no more liberals.

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LibsAreWrong 10/11/12 - 12:00 pm
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Say NO to the DFL!

The DFL is famous for wanting to lower societie's "norm" to the lowest common denominator. Put your foot down and vote Yes-Yes. Protect marriage and your vote!

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LibsAreWrong 10/11/12 - 12:30 pm
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Common sense

One more thing, ask anyone who does not think that we should have to show an id to vote if we can change the law on buying firearms so that we do not have to show an id to buy guns and ammo. A criminal can cause alot of damage with a firearm, which is why some people aren't allowed to buy them. A criminal can also cause alot of damage with voter fraud (as Al Franken taught us). Without voter fraud Franken would still be penning articles about bestiality and not casting the deciding vote on Obamacare. Democrats don't care about voter fraud because they benifit from it. Shame on them (as if they care).

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