Dear Mr. Romney
We citizens need to see your tax returns so we too can figure out how to starve our government. I’m impressed that you are returning us to “survival of the fittest” principles that guided our nation for the first 150 years. If we, under your leadership, can dismantle social programs in the U.S.A. in favor of building schools, hospitals and roads in the Middle East over the next several decades then I say “bravo!” I also like your idea of building up our military so we can “bomb, bomb Iran” as Sen. McCain so eloquently sings.
We, like you need to know hat tax exemptions, loopholes, etc., to use so we can use our own money for private schools, nannies, mansions, luxury cars, yachts, three-story garages, private golf courses and so much more.
Some of us don’t want to be commoners anymore. Public parks are crowded. Public schools are failing. Rusted cars and “sinking boats” abound.
My fellow commoners are lazy, dependent riff-raff that I no longer wish to help or associate with.
As a bonus, maybe we can starve social security, medicare, medicaid, public schools, our national parks, our infrastructure, our police, and fire departments, our counties, our cities and especially poor people.
I for one, want to be a part of your aristocracy, meritocracy, plutocracy or whatever. I will even be your limo driver. It must pay better than a job at WalMart.
Why are you withholding your tax returns? How can we be like you if we don’t know how you became rich and successful?
I want to separate myself from common, ordinary, ever day life, live in a gate community and hire security personnel to fend off the riff raff when they come to steal my food. Help!
Bruce G. Femling
Baxter
Comments (83)
Add commentBond, you lost me at democracy
how can you have a legitimate argument when you dont even realize we are not a democracy?
Maybe educate yourself before posting...
Romneys low tax rate...
He paid more than 75% of the population. Remember now, he did not earn an income in 2011. He earned on his investments.
Tax law allows a person to donate to charities and write them off. You have the same chance to do that BOND, do you?
I donate 10% of my income and with my other donations, I pay at about 9.8% federal income tax after my return. I have deductions other than charitable donations as well.
So Bond, i am going to guess you think you pay 15 or 25% because thats the tax bracket you are in...my guess is after your tax return, you pay a much lower rate than Mr. Romney. And if you dont, its your own fault because you could do the same exact donation percentages he does and drop your effective tax rate.
He pays 10% to his church which is charitable, he then paid another 15% above that to other charities. He is a good man.
Obama gave 22% and I applaud him as well and that 22% lowered the Prez's tax rate.
But Romney running the country has ZERO to do with what he paid in taxes. You lefties whined because he didnt release his tax returns, which he DID NOT have to do. Now you whine because he donates a ton of money to drop his tax rates.
Want a good talking point, heres a few,
• apologizer-in-cheif,
• scared to admit a terroristic act
• his spending
• lack of leadership,
• 97-0 vote down of his budget 2 years in a row
• his golf game,
• lack of talking with foreign leaders but has time for The View
• the artificial filling of Medicare with $8 billion that wont be there next year effectively crippling Medicare,
• gas prices (remember in 2007 it was Bush's fault),
• over regulations on coal plants effectively skyrocketing energy prices
• food price inflation that isnt drought driven (thats yet to come),
• the Chevy Volt disaster
• failing to prevent the Libyan terror attack when they had evidence 2 days before hand,
• not arming our guards at embassies,
• unemployment,
• labor force participation rate that proves his administration lying on unemployment rates,
• dropping of household incomes
• side stepping congress
• campaigning for 4 years rather than running the country
• bowing and calling Islamic leaders His Highness
• failing middle eastern policies
• printing monopoly money which fails so print more monopoly money and more again
Yep, Mr. Romneys taxes are so important to the future of this country.
Progressive Taxation
Muelbau, no amount of information will ever dissuade you from your right wing beliefs. Progressivity in our tax system has been viewed as a fair way to collect income taxes. You obviously have very right wing, libertarian views, which I do not share.
We tried your way under Bush and it was a miserable failure. Studies have debunked your world view, but please continue to be faithful, in spite of the outcomes. If you want to return to that philosophy, then Mitt is your man.
You can keep prosthelytizing your views all you want, but you are not convincing anyone else but the already convinced.
Under Bush you say...
But it was the Clinton administration, obsessed with multiculturalism, that dictated where mortgage lenders could lend, and originally helped create the market for the high-risk subprime loans now infecting like a retrovirus the balance sheets of many of Wall Street's most revered institutions.
Tough new regulations forced lenders into high-risk areas where they had no choice but to lower lending standards to make the loans that sound business practices had previously guarded against making. It was either that or face stiff government penalties.
The untold story in this whole national crisis is that President Clinton put on steroids the Community Redevelopment Act, a well-intended Carter-era law designed to encourage minority homeownership. And in so doing, he helped create the market for the risky subprime loans that he and Democrats now decry as not only greedy but "predatory."
The only thing Bush has had to do with this is that in 2004 he and a few other congressmen tried to overhaul and regulate how Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were run and their financing.
Under Clinton's laws, you could be 97 years old, meet the criteria and you have a 30 year loan...
The regulations that Clinton put it required that lenders finance homes in high risk markets or face very large fines. So, in order to make those loans, they had to relax the standards, hence the housing crash.
Silly Righty's
All you Mittster fans are the same, Freedom this, Liberty that. The only freedoms that you are concerned about are your individual freedoms.The ones you personally feel are important to yourself as an individual. Lets start taking those away and you'll scream a new tune.. what individual freedom's have you lost. If its a job, well you must be a low-life dirty scumbag, because that's what you call everyone else who needs help. Mittley and King of the Cuts Ryan is going to do NOTHING for you. Taking away from schools, police, fire, and everyday workers should work great.That my friend is Anarchy in the making. Lets make it illegal for Gay Marriage, Because that will help our economy. Lets Ban Planned Parenthood, another big step forward. Reduce Social Security and Medicare, that should help our seniors. Remember how big bad Obama was gonna come knock on your door and take your guns, I guess he missed my house. You Fox News following morons need to think for yourself, or just be actually honest, get the black guy out. Because that is what the true undertone is. Neither presidential candidate is going to Fix everything, nor will any, unless you want true communism and total control, in which case from your argument, Obama is Perfect. I actually hope that Romney gets elected, spends the entire term doing what he is promising, "fixing Obama's Mess" so you can all see that we are still getting nowhere. The real problem is the absolute divide in the "parties". We elect people to work for us, and they aren't even shy when they admit they are strictly working to defeat the other party at all costs. We don't have a government, we have a middle school drama club. Do I think everything Obama has done in office is perfect, not by any means, and I can admit that, not just say how great he is. Maybe you should become think for yourselfer's, and not Newt's fan club, and try it too.
political divide?
Several budgets when through the house that were bipartisan only to be crushed by Obama's puppet Harry Reid. That idiot wouldnt even bring them to the floor for a vote.
As for the political divide, that started under Pelosi when Bush 2 was in office. She wouldnt do anything to help prevent this mess even though Bush had several ideas to ponder.
You lefties are all alike, only remember back to the most recent righty. Never remember the whole story.
You say think for yourself Medic...isnt that what people do when we say people should try to work for themselves and get off the government teat that Obama wants everyone on? 49 million welfare recipients...enough said.
Fits RIGHT in there with Willards favorite number...
Political Divide
I didnt say it was only the righty's that were to blame, just gave an example. And I am sorry If I offended your bleeding heart poor me, everybody else has it better mentality. BOTH sides are to BLAME..Period, that the point, We need to stop the High School crap and work together. But when the Righty congress makes a point to say its only mission is to throw Obama after one term, and does NOTHING to fix America to make him look worse, it puts a bad taste in my mouth. As far as looking back to the last Lefty President, your point is tarnished again. The best economy we have had in a long time. And the Tax statement arguement is no different than you crying about Obama's Birth Certificate, and calling him an illegal muslim immigrant, a weak ploy by the the parties drag up some stupid s%*t Its [filtered word] political garbage and nothing more making the other guy look bad, instead of telling what you are going to do.. Kinda like Romney dodging every detailed question about anything, because he doesnt have a plan, and either does Ryan, thats why he is still running for his state job in WI. They dont have a clue
Comrade Bond
is a hopeless case.
If I were poor, I'd rather be dependent on Romney for charity...
...than Biden. What a cheapskate Biden is when it comes to spending his OWN money. I give more to charity than he does and I make a lot less.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-gave-1000-times-much-charity-...
medic
The Senate is ccontrolled by Democrats and it was the Senate minority leader, McConnell that has been misquoted on the one term Pres. Obama talk. You see, Pres. Obama said
that if he didn't straighten this out, he would only have one term. Immaterial.
It is not a righty congress, only half Repub. There are two parts to the congress and they only control one.
Ryan is still running for the U.S. Rep in Wisc. as it was too
late to take his name off the ballot.
Romney and Ryan do answer questions if you can find
some outlet to carry their speeches.
Good luck with that.
The best economy we have had in a long time, what the
heck is that based on? Who are the economists saying that?
F&B
Do you suppose that is the kind of medics we get under obamma care?? Now thats scary!!
Country needs help
The real problem is spending.
Economy, Jobs, Debt -- all in need of a Leader.
Foreign policy is in need of a Leader.
The most important job of the President is to protect the country. That does include the embassies.
James Bond
Please tell us who these educated economists are that you read? Then we will read them. We will suggest some for you to read. Then you can read our suggestions.
Senate Controlled by Democrats?
Really? I did not know that. Do you want a chart to show the number of fillibusters from the minority party is at a all time high? Proves to me once again that partisan righties live in a totally parallel and fantasy world and have no clue as to how their government works.
why you suppose that is bond?
could it be that all them bills are about spending and not about curing?
Is that why Reid hasnt brought a budget to the floor of the senate other than Obamas that got defeated 97-0?
I have watched several partisan bills that have left the house floor only to get the axe by Reid without a vote. Explain that one please. Is that partisan?
Why is it that Reid and Obama keeps putting partisan bills up for vote without compromise?
Come on genius, please explain each one of these questions so we can see how partisan you are and how you lack facts.
Touché, medic211
Congress's approval rating is at an all time low at 10%.
Gee, wonder why? Because they look foolish and ignorant and we can watch them 24/7 as they speak. They turn anyone with any common sense away.
Economist Against Flat Tax
There are so many, but a few to start:
"Flat Tax is Class Warfare" - Holley Ulbrich, an economics professor emeritus and senior fellow at the Strom Thurmond Institute at Clemson University.
"The Flat Tax Fraud" - Robert Reich, formerly a professor at Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of Government and professor of social and economic policy at the Heller School for Social Policy and Management of Brandeis University.
"The Problem with Flat Tax Fever" - Robert H. Frank is an economics professor at the Johnson Graduate School of Management at Cornell University.
"The Case Against the Flat Tax" - Murray N. Rothbard.
Do you want more? Do you understand why I listen/read real economic experts and not self-professed local "experts"?
In addition I like Paul Krugman, Joseph Stiglitz, and David Kay Johnson.
I assume you will trot out Milton Friedman, right? Or, do you more closely follow Professor Muelbauer?
Uh, yeah, Murray Rothbard is against the flat tax for completely
different reasons than you, Bond. He wants EVERYONE to pay as little as possible in taxes. From the article you cite:
"All I know is that, as a taxpayer, I would like my taxes to be as low as possible. I suggest, then, that we cease the impossible quest for fairness in taxation, and try to arrive at taxes as low as possible. For whom? For everyone."
Murray likes loopholes. Lots of them. Loopholes keep as much money from the ravening government as possible, something he supports fully. Is that what you're for? Maybe I misjudged you.
My point is that people who think they are going to get more out of the government than they put in by sticking it to other people are a little on the covetous side. I want that to stop. Will the flat tax help in that regard? It sure would wake a lot of people up who see no down side in spending like drunken sailors because it won't hurt "their" pocketbook.
To whom it may concern
As you can tell, economist do not agree, therefore, it is not
an exact science. I think Paul Krugman is a joke, but do
get that you may like him.
Some names for you and I have no idea what they think
of the flat tax and quite frankly, I don't care.
I do read some of these guys and listen to them if I can,
but they are not all-knowing.
Allan Meltzer, Kevin Hassett, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, Art Laffer, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams.
Thomas Sowell - I have read books and heard on the radio.
Anyway just a few to broaden your horizons and thought
process.
BTW, did you hear about Hillary's potty-mouth aide?
You'd think an aide to the SoS would be a little more...diplomatic...especially in written correspondence!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeedpolitics/hillary-clinton-aide-tells-repo...
I guess the fact that CNN found Steven's journal, which put the lie to Obama's claim that the uprising in Benghazi was a "spontaneous outpouring of righteous indignation". If Obama and Rice had even a lick of sense, they would have kept their yaps shut until the facts came out. Now they look for all the world like they are apologists for terrorism.
Commoners Choice?
Maybe, being a mere commoner has a lot to do with your attitude - that of being a victim of your own decisions.
Left and Right Against Fair Tax
Congratulations, you passed the test!
Yes, I included that libertarian on purpose to show that not just the liberal side is against the Fair Tax.
Mr. Romney, you better do well in the debates or you will go down as one of the worst campaigners ever.
Let's face it...
...the left is against the flat tax because it means they will finally have to pay their fair share, and some on the right are against it because they are afraid the government will get too much money with it (like Rothbard). I have some sympathy for Rothbard's arguments, but none for the left's. The fact is the left wing foot soldiers are so busy with their class warfare they fail to see the obvious. Focusing on progressive income tax rates does nothing to even things out regarding overall tax rates paid. We already HAVE progressive income tax rates, and yet people like Buffet and Romney pay lower taxes than people who have strictly earned income.
And you aren't fooling me, Bond. You never read Rothbard's article.
Debates will be one sided.
Meanwhile, Mitt is wondering why aircraft windows don't roll down? What a lack of a grasp of science...and lack of common sense.
Should be a good night for President Obama.
Did Mr. Obama break the law?
He violated the Constitution of the United States of America.
that's not a traffic ticket, Bond.
Scary
You forgot
3 obummercare
4 fuel prices
5 printing lots of fake money
6 do ya want more??
Obummer wanted the internet everywhere
so that his uninformed sheeple followers could cheer him on.
It's also hilarious that
most of the people that want to see his tax returns don't file any or if they do they get back money they didn't have with held or pay in. (think care credits etc.). I bet some folks we all know got or get thousands back every year that they didn't pay in.
Bond
Make up your mind Mr. Bond are you talking about the flat tax or the Fair tax. They are not the same.You either typed wrong or don't understand the difference.
The fact is there is no flat tax or fair tax on the table at this
point. I think Huckebee liked the Fair tax. Forbes liked the
flat tax. Even then, the proposals on the flat tax are
different so, this is only a discussion at this point.Bond
We need change
Right, Fair, they might not ever see a real tax return so, they want to see one., They don't seem to comprehend the
70,000 + pages of tax code.
For all the hope and change, they appear to be scared of any
real change like flat tax and photo ID to name two.
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