Minnesotans must vote against the proposed state constitutional marriage amendment.
This closed-minded campaign is without logical justification, unnecessarily forced into public discourse by partisan motives, and representative of a poor understanding of the purpose of a constitution.
A constitution is not intended for policy decisions (the legislature makes marriage laws — which clearly must be updated).
Rather, it is a document which outlines our form of government and lists our rights and liberties.
The constitution is no place for a silly definition of marriage.
William Haugen
Decorah,Iowa
Comments (34)
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You had me all the way .... constitutional law must be taken seriously and used as intended, as you say above.....
But I will not label it as silly. There are those who propose this with as much earnest as those who oppose it. I will give them that respect.
Well, Zachnos...
...if you're worried about the constitutionality of things, I suggest you turn your head toward the judicial, which has forced the hand of the people to drastic measures by unconstitutionally finding the right of homosexuals to marry in the ether and imposing it on them without their popular consent.
I completely agree with you that the comment about the definition of traditional marriage being "silly" was over the top. How you can call a tradition that has served humanity in a positive way for thousands of years "silly", is beyond me.
Mr. Haugen, I've seen the
Mr. Haugen, I've seen the Girls and boys from Iowa and the boys are, indeed much prettier so go ahead, put on your best bib overalls and marry Larry. Best of luck - Steve
"scaryphailin" says
"Your "bible" also supports and regulates slavery!!! Well scary, I'm not a Bible scholar so I would suggest that you contact the author of that fine article on the subject from a week or so ago. His name is Rev. Kevin Robson and he is Pastor at Prince of Peace Lutheran Church in Baxter. Ask him to explain the correlation between the Law and Gospel differences of the Old and New Testaments. Just maybe (?) you will learn something that you obviously have little or no knowledge of.
Yes, scary,
Sometimes we should just listen to our elders about which selective verses in the Bible to believe and not think for ourselves. Especially we women. Now, back to the kitchen with you, and haven't you got some ironing to do later? Put that iPhone down and get er done, lady.
LOL!
"....which selective verses in the Bible to believe...."
All verses of the Bible are interpreted by other verses of the Bible. There is no requirement biblically that a woman is directed "back to the kitchen with you". The requirement is that she not be a preacher! There is absolutely nothing biblically incorrect with a woman being "in charge" in any matters of the left (the right being the church).
As I suggested, contact the Pr. Robson and you just might learn how ill informed you actually are "in matters of the Word".
Over half of current seminary graduates are women!
Guess we need to edit that book.
That's the problem
That's the problem scary, so many denominations prefer to pick and choose so that they sound well informed. If you actually do use Scripture to interpret Scripture you do NOT cherry pick. I dislike making conclusions about folks, but in this case I do wonder whetehr or not you are afraid to speak to the good Rev. Robson because you might have to hear something that you don't want to listen to. Sort of like those Bible Thumpers that like to "cherry pick" !!!!!!
Also, don't think that I believe that I am any less of a sinner than you or anyone else!!!
One thing is certain.
Those who mock the Lord and worship Obama and his henchmen will be judged harshly in the end.
Keep it up athiests and etc. you WILL be judged by the Lord.
Well southie11, your comment. "
Well southie11, your comments, "Over half of current seminary graduates are women!" and "Guess we need to edit that book." go hand in hand with scaryphailin's comment, "Which selective, cherry-picked verses in the Bible to believe,"! Women pastors belong to denominations that absolutely "cherry pick" the verses to believe.
To You I repeat what I said previously, "I do wonder whether or not you are afraid to speak to the good Rev. Robson because you might have to hear something that you don't want to listen to". It sounds like this statement may be fitting for both you southie11 and scaryphailin.
Just remember that similar to what Fair n Balanced said, the
day will come when the Lord puts the Sheep to the right and the Goats to the left. There will absolutely be gnashing of teeth on the left!!
I hope I am a goat!
I have been in congregations served by women and they are very well-received.
I refuse to be in a congregation ruled by fear.
And I am old and retired, too.
Scary is a guy...
...not a woman, Southie, but I can see how you'd get confused. Funny how he doesn't correct you, though. I guess he likes being mistaken for a woman.
simper, simper
don't be mean to her/him.....
Do you really
hope you are a goat Southie? If you "have been in congregations" with well received women pastors you have been in congregations wherein Scripture is interpreted by the congregation / denomination rather than by Scripture. Or, very possibly using the "Historical Critical" method of interpretation.
Remember that the Word in Galatians 1:8 says:
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
So, please Southie, don't wish such as that on yourself and choose carefully where you attend Christian services.
oldandretired
go away, you might mean well, but you are as delusional as unbalanced
Scary,
You should be flattered that I thought you were a smart woman.
Point : no one really knows the ID of posters
Anniejo admitted to being a male!
People post from all corners of the country, not just here.
People log in on local elections who cannot vote here.
People assume that elected officials read this blather. I have asked a bunch of elected officials and candidates if they are aware of the comments -- but they just laugh and roll their eyes. They are too busy to spend time on here.
Say motleylarry,
One thing that looses you points is name calling. I do have a question for you though, are you an evolutionist?
I do believe
that some people evolve from things that most intelligent people don't. Maybe Larry can let us know his family tree?
Who ever thought politicians were reading these comments?
I question whether politicians read the letters that are sent to them directly! Strange comment Snowda--even stranger that you asked some politicians if they read the comboxes. Is that why you contribute here? Because you are hoping to gain influence? That's both funny and sad.
As I said,
one of the current DFL candidates used to post on the forums day and night and may still under a new identity. I'm not saying that the person is bad but am saying that if everyone knew some of the posted opinions of that person it could change their vote. snow is blowing smoke and trying to distract competent voters from the truth about DFL candidates. Muehl, candidates read and post here, it's just that they hide just like many of us, for one reason or another.
I wonder who the cons would
I wonder who the cons would target if they didn't have gays?
No one is targeting gays...
...gays are targeting a critical human institution for disruption. And I just love the way the left lies about anyone who defends traditional marriage (which has served society well for millenia) and tries to depict them as "haters" or "radicals". Of course, that "big lie" HAS been woven into the very fabric of our society, so maybe the truth IS revolutionary:
Oh look, Scary is experimenting with a basic premise of logic...
...isn't that cute! It may appear that old and retired is guilty of circular reasoning when he says read the Bible and you'll see it's true, but then again, maybe he's not. Maybe what he's really saying is that you will find it rings true, not that it proves itself. You know, Scary, rather like you finding Soros' sites so "truth-filled" that you think anyone who isn't as impressed as you by his wisdom and "truth" is an infidel.
I addressed your rather unsubstantial argument, Scary...
...before pointing out that you are guilty of the same short-cut to thinking that oldandretired used. I've never seen you read and assimilate information that might contradict your rather brittle worldview. You are as dogma-driven as any Christian-- maybe more so.
old and retired
I didn't call you a name, I said you were delusional.
My only question is why are we publishing letters
from gay Iowan corn (deleted word)! We really don't have enough people writing into this paper from around here?
And Motley is also way out
in left field.