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The election

Posted: July 17, 2012 - 9:24pm

The election

I hear over and over again the phrase that our vote this fall will not be so much a vote for Romney but a vote against Obama. Reading between the lines this says to me that it is a vote for the lesser of two evils. Why is it that we are forced to make this choice? I am going to answer my own question the way I see it.

The two major political parties in this election and for a long time in the past have wrested total control over the process of selecting a candidate. The cost of winning an election and their combined efforts to thwart any other candidates from being a part of this process has taken away our democratic right to choose and left them with total power. That’s step one in their quest. Step two is winning total power of the congress, the presidency and the courts. Make no mistake about it that is their goal. That will also be the day when our democratic form of government ceases to exist.

Having to vote for someone you do not want is evidence of what I am talking about. I challenge Congress to add a line to this falls ballots. Its called “the none of the above line.” Let’s let the truth show through. On second thought forget it. They already know how frustrated we are with them and they don’t care. They know they will probably get reelected because they already control that process.

Mike Holst

Crosslake

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fishhead
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fishhead 07/18/12 - 07:10 am
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Thousands of more qualified

Thousands of more qualified leaders never get to the ballot because of party and insider control.

I don't hold much hope for democracy unless we get public financing of elections. This coming election has already shown how secret big money is flooding into the system and threatens to drown us all.

Once the robber barons gain control of our elections and court system our vote won't matter.

anniejo
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anniejo 07/18/12 - 11:12 am
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Good letter, Mike. Once

Good letter, Mike. Once again, I second your point re: public financing, Fish. If Obama prevails in November, aided in significant fashion by large contributions from corporations, PACS, and the few remaining unions, perhaps conservatives (who seem to feel that limiting the ability to 'buy' an election is a violation of free speech under the Constitution) will come to their senses and recognize that 'democracy of, by, and for the PEOPLE' has become a memory, if it ever purely existed at all.

Certainly, our Constitution must remain a 'living' document if democratic government is to remain a viable concept and it is also true that all 'living' things must necessarily change. A Constitutional Amendment will be required in an attempt to restore the idea of 'one citizen, one vote'.

I find it amusingly and ridiculously ironic that conservatives in our present election cycle, fueled by Teabanger mindlessness, support the 'inviolate sanctity' of the Constitution while proposing no less than 5 amendments to same. If not for nonsense, some would have no-sense at all.

stevebusch
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stevebusch 07/18/12 - 02:34 pm
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"I hear over and over again

"I hear over and over again the phrase that our vote this fall will not be so much a vote for Romney but a vote against Obama."

Isn't a vote against B.Hussein O'Bama enough?It is for me.
Bye,bye, Bary. Write if you find work in Chicago or Kenya.

southie11
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southie11 07/18/12 - 03:44 pm
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When Mitt finally releases his taxes,

it will be a slam dunk. We all know if the electorate grumbled at his previous revelation that he paid 13%; when it is revealed that he paid NONE in 2009, legal or not, the game is over. He is trying to keep them secret until the GOP Convention, but the Ron Paul folks are determined to keep the pressure on. Fun to watch.

I wonder if he collects Social Security and if he is on Medicare?

GetaGrip
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GetaGrip 07/18/12 - 03:50 pm
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Southy....love the double

Southy....love the double standard on openess. So tell me, where is Barack's college work? His college application? His thesis from his graduate work? Honesty.....where is it.....oh yah, it's what he said on the campaign trail this last week. You know, that if it wasn't for governement, we'd all be screwed. Could it be that, that wasn't a gaff and it is what he truely believes and hes much more explicit about it in college writings?

Love your double standard on transparency. The whole tax release subject is simply smoke and mirrors for the terrible state of the economy and jobs. Way to fall for hook-line-and-sinker.

southie11
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southie11 07/18/12 - 04:02 pm
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Did I miss

the day Bush and Mitt revealed their transcripts? And who out there actually believes Bush was capable intellectually of earning an MBA from Harvard?

But both of those Presidents have shown their taxes.

Apples to apples, gg.

Mitt is running on his business experience and his taxes will tell the tale. They will show how active he was in Bain from 1999 on.

They will show IF he paid any taxes.

pdnet15
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pdnet15 07/18/12 - 04:18 pm
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Mike, the only phrases you hear

are the democratic slogans that your party are so famous for.
My question is why is anyone worried about Bane? I will tell you; it is because the dems are so worried about ancient history (Bane, Bush, Reagan) because recent history is so embarrassing. Obama has done nothing but talk and shown so little for his time in office, except driven the debt sky high, it is easier to blame those in the past than rely on a record of negatives!

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/18/12 - 06:19 pm
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I hope Romney doesn't release

I hope Romney doesn't release any taxes other than
2010-2011. That is all that is needed. They are too
complicated for ordinary folks to understand. One
only has to read the comments on this site to see the
knowledge of the 70000 page tax code.
Bush did release his transcripts at his schools as well
as health records. This President released a one page
health record which is nothing.

He can start with releasing the Fast and Furious records.
Get over Bush and unless you understand the complicated
tax code get over that.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/18/12 - 07:53 pm
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Obama should release

Columbia, Occidental, Harvard records. and just how did he get to Pakistan?
what visa, where did he get money for school and trips?

What did he accomplish as a community organizer/
what did he accomplish as a lawyer, who were his clients?
what was the actual course that he taught?
what happened to his law degree? did he give it up?
This is just a start...

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/18/12 - 07:46 pm
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Obama can release

the Fast and Furious records

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/18/12 - 07:45 pm
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Illinois State Senate

Obama insisted that Hillary release records as First Lady, but he did not
release his state senate records

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 07/18/12 - 06:26 pm
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Well, Frank Marshal Davis,

an avowed Communist was Obama's mentor and Obama admits that. So a vote for Obama is a vote for Communism and every lib on here that supports him would then be pro-communist. Get ready for your potatoe patches libs.

southie11
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southie11 07/18/12 - 07:17 pm
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So if I have a friend, you judge me by my friend's beliefs?

Guess I had better dump some folks from my social circle...including relatives, or some up tightie rightie will judge me.

MeanwhIle CNN is eviscerating Michele Bachman. Is she your friend, MN GOPers? Even McCain, friend of Palin, is digging Michele a hole to fall in to.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 07/18/12 - 07:47 pm
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Davis was not just a friend.

Don't even start that lie. Read you communist hero's book. He was Barry's mentor and led him up the path to be as one with Marxism. And yes, I do judge BHO on that.

NanLee60
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NanLee60 07/18/12 - 07:47 pm
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Yeah

Yeah southie I heard that on the news. The dingbat opened her mouth again and her own "people" are trying to shut her down. The party to be proud of? Vote for? Make President? Save us!
Sadiemarriedlady? Something stick?

southie11
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southie11 07/18/12 - 07:49 pm
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I read all about him,

and you distort almost everything you post. Do you have a reading comprehension problem? A teacher could help you with that.

southie11
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southie11 07/18/12 - 08:41 pm
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Good grief, Sadie

Those state senate records are public information. Find a different source for your news.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 07/18/12 - 08:23 pm
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Did you read the part

where others said that obama was a devout marxist? And may still be? Are you a communist? If not, why do you want one for President? I don't distort anything. You libs just can't
admit the truth.

fishhead
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fishhead 07/19/12 - 06:59 am
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The corporate looter is

The corporate looter is running on his business experience but won't allow his tax returns to be seen. He said he won't give Obama any more "ammunition".

He might as well have said I'm ashamed of the way I looted companies and then hide the money overseas and out of the US economy. I'm the only one that matters.

What does that tell you about him and the way he conducts business?

He's the perfect GOP candidate. Wealthy and selfish.

GetaGrip
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GetaGrip 07/19/12 - 07:19 am
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Fish....get with the game. If

Fish....get with the game. If Mitt is running on his business record, why his personal taxes? If he is running on his business record then go look at the corporate taxes, which by the way are public record since its a public company. Perhaps your jealous that there is actually someone out there that can manage a successful business unlilke you and your fishfarm. Once again, deflection from the real issue; a terrible economy, Fast and Furious, horrible jobs after trillions being spent....and again....you've got your blinders on.

I also like the way that everytime Obama is caught at something, the Dems response is a comparison to Bush as a justification. I thought Obama promised "change". Looks to me, that according to you guys, he's exactly like the President you dispise.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/19/12 - 07:37 am
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Good grief, Southie

not the public information, but his private papers that
he doesn't know what happened to.
My sources are:
Chicago Sun Times, Lynn Sweet and the Star Tribune from
Nov. 14, 2007. Actually, no one cares, but he was Mr.
Transparency and when it came to his policy memos, meetings, appointments with lobbyists - nothing.
These are papers that the State would not have, but him
personally. They were wondering about memo's and papers
with state agencies, and if he urged clemency for a convicted criminal.

He was demanding Hillary's papers, but thought his own
may have been thrown out.
Don't worry, no one cares about his past.

southie11
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southie11 07/19/12 - 08:37 am
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Where are Mitt's papers from Bain meetings?

Sounds like you got that Colombo email going around.

Myeye08
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Myeye08 07/19/12 - 08:56 am
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Walking the dog

"It's about the economy Stupid"...

I find this article in Politico titled "Hard Facts vs. mind over fiscal matter" by Peter Schweizer very interesting. Among other things it states that "Throughout his Presidency, Obama has spent an average of 138 minutes per week in economic meetings. For a comparison consider dog owners spend an average of 130 minutes per week walking their dogs."
If this is a fact, I guess you could say that when Obama states that the economy is the first thing on his mind when he awakes in the morning and the last thing on his mind before he goes to bed at night he might be saying 'I"m thinking about the economy while walking the dog first thing in the morning and at night before I go to bed."
The next thought that comes to mind ... who is really being taken for a walk ?

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/19/12 - 09:19 am
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No Columbo email here,

in fact, no email alerts, just my interest.
Do not fear, Obama's people have to come up with all
kinds of diversions about Mitt and Bush so they don't
have to defend their record.
It is the ecomony, and jobs that Obama doesn't want to
talk about.
Diversion on steriods.

No one really cares about Obama's past.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 07/19/12 - 10:02 am
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It is possible to think with the radio on.

No radio, TV on, or no emails, and I'm thinking of transparency and Obama and how no one cares what
he has said or done prior to becoming President.
I care about his associations and his lack of transparency.

Don't worry, no one cares about his past.
I'm concerned about the current state of the economy
and the lack of leadership on the President's part.

Economy.

GetaGrip
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GetaGrip 07/19/12 - 10:35 am
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Why on God's earth would we

Why on God's earth would we want to see Obama's senate records. We already know that he voted "present" 90%+ of the time. However, lets see all the papers from Obama's illegal deal with Tony Resco.

Better yet, show me the progress in the economy after trillions being spent.

Problem is you simply can't do it. So, you resort to deflections about something that doesn't matter. Hummm, I remember that tactic being used by my 4 year old when he couldn't account for his behavior.

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 07/19/12 - 05:04 pm
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Sheriff Joe

Has his man on it. My gut feeling says there is something fishy about how he has sooooo many people brainwashed with the way he is turning this country into a little Greece.

NanLee60
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NanLee60 07/19/12 - 05:37 pm
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Pushin

They sure are pushing for Mitt "Rob"me to get in office to show how it's NOT done.

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