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Open Forum: A question for Rep. Ward

Posted: February 22, 2011 - 8:36pm

In lieu of the Wisconsin protest and my desire to be provided with direct and forthright answers to direct questions of our elected officials, on Friday I sent a question to our Democratic state representative, John Ward, asking if he supports the tactics employed by Wisconsin Democratic senators fleeing the state to prevent a vote on the bill before the Wisconsin Senate, and whether he agrees with the teachers actions, shutting down schools for three days.

It seemed a reasonable question; a question, actually, that would be most appropriate for any cub reporter without an ax to grind to ask him.
His response? See for yourselves:

“As I am a Minnesota state legislator and we have many, many of our own state issues/problems, that is where I am focusing my energy.”

Thankfully, via the Brainerd Dispatch Open Forum, I have the opportunity to ask Rep. Ward the same question again. I will add these questions as well:

“What is so fundamentally different about the Wisconsin government being broke and the Minnesota government being broke? Do you think Minnesota government unions will act differently? Is your answer to me the same answer you would like to publicly give all of your constituents? Aren’t you glad nobody working for the local paper thinks of questions like these?”

Jeff Czeczok
Brainerd

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Vincent
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Vincent 02/22/11 - 09:00 pm
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So Dispatch...

Why did you remove my closing salutation to Mr. Ward?
What was the problem with…?

Your friend and constituent,

Jeff Czeczok

eyolf
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eyolf 02/22/11 - 09:43 pm
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To be absolutely fair, Jeff

Perhaps it would be wise to more fully understand the situation in Wisconsin:

Governor Walker does apparently have the electorate behind him by one interpretation. But at least part of that electorate expects their leaders to be adult about things. Walker is picking and choosing whom he wants to push around based somewhat on ideology, somewhat on political power, and above all, based on vengeance. Why else pick out some unions to be exempt?

Walker was elected, in part, because of a huge infusion of cash by the Koch brothers, who are known to be anti-union. Walker knows that public sentiment may allow him to prevail and serve his masters...else why would he shut down another Republican proposal to furlough union rights for a period of time, then restore them?

Walker had my sympathy until this last stroke of ineptitude. Actually, if Walker had been a true gentleman, he could very well have had aides apprise key union leaders of his intentions a short time before public announcement, asking for their understanding. It could have worked for everyone, but IMO, Walker was interested in shocking them into a reaction he could use against them, and it worked for a time.

Reflection by some moderate voices in the public sector might have actually had them analysing data from states that already forbid some or all public employees from organizing: I have some experience with Texas, which DOES forbid many public servants from organizing, and their teachers actually do a little better than Wisconsin's, especially in starting salary. Seasoned teachers in Texas and Wisconsin make about the same, but new hires in Wi take it in the shorts.

Walker misses the boat, IMO, when he refuses to use reason and logic to win over his adversary. Instead he picks a fight to provoke a reaction, then when he gets his reaction feigns indignance, probably to stoke the fires of the lunatic fringe he believes are his base. Most people don't stay angry forever, and this display may bite him in the rear later.

Ward has two advantages: 1) he has a dem governor not looking to score points with what may turn out to be a narrow fringe group, and 2) he's at least smart enough to keep his mouth shut.

fishhead
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fishhead 02/23/11 - 07:40 am
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What's happening in WI is

What's happening in WI is part of a national movement by the corporations who installed Republican governors to bust all unions. They're just targeting the ones they think they can bust now but their intention is to bust the rest later.

Once done with that they can start rolling back worker rights for the rest of us and pass the profits upward like they have done for the past 30+ years.

Someone brought up a point that I hadn't thought of.

Reagan started busting unions in the early 80's. At that time the top 1% owned 9% of the nations wealth. By 2007 the top 1% owned 24% of the nations wealth.

During that time period worker wages stagnated and all the benefits of increased worker productivity went to the top.

Now with the help of the ruling by activist Supreme Court judges installed by the Republicans the top earners are going to finish the job of destroying the middle class.

Lifelongresident
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Lifelongresident 02/23/11 - 09:38 am
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Hate and envy, again!

Another example of the resident hate and envy distributor.

Lifelongresident
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Lifelongresident 02/23/11 - 10:17 am
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Massachusetts Democrat said

Sometimes it's necessary to get out on the streets and "get a little bloody," a Massachusetts Democrat said Tuesday in reference to labor battles in Wisconsin.

Rep. Michael Capuano (D-Mass.)

JohnBrown
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JohnBrown 02/23/11 - 11:37 am
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WI

There is at least one questionable provision in Wisconsin's budget bill. I'm not talking about restricting the powers of public employees to vote themselves more money and power.

Section 44.16.896 reads:

"(1) Notwithstanding ss. 13.48 (14) (am) and 16.705 (1), the department may sell any state−owned heating, cooling, and power plant or may contract with a private entity for the operation of any such plant, with or without solicitation of bids, for any amount that the department determines to be in the best interest of the state. Notwithstanding ss. 196.49 and 196.80, no approval or certification of the public service commission is necessary for a public utility to purchase, or contract for the operation of, such a plant, and any such purchase is considered to be in the public interest and to comply with the criteria for certification of a project under s. 196.49 (3) (b)."

FACT: Koch Industries opened a lobbying office in Madison last November and have seven full time employees.

It appears the union issue may be a bit of a red herring.

anniejo
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anniejo 02/23/11 - 12:30 pm
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Hypnosis and ignorance abound.

Keep up the good fight, fishhead! Not since the days of the last far right wack from Wisconsin, Joe McCarthy, has this nation's public dialogue been reduced to such hypnotic ignorance. Barry Goldwater, perhaps the 'godfather of modern conservatism', would find it difficult for his thoughts to gain meaningful traction within his own party in a political climate so oblivious to reality and truth. The list of 'unrealities' that is being clung to by the hypnotized is long, indeed, and the effort to even begin recitation is a pointless endeavor, but it may be summed up in this simple 'reality'. When approximately 1 in 4 citizens believe the President of the U.S. is NOT constitutionally qualified to hold office because he was NOT born in the country, we're all in big trouble. To compound the ignorance, a large percentage of this 25% hang on every untruth uttered by demonizers such as Glen Beck, who they have come to look upon as a modern-day prophet and capable of leading us all out of the 'darkness'. Truly unbelievable!

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mission 02/23/11 - 12:35 pm
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On Wisconsin...

Thanks to 'eyolf' for an accurate portrait of what's happening in Wisconsin. The dispute has never been about the budget, since the teachers and other public employee union groups had volunteered from the beginning to make substantial cuts in employer contributions to health insurance and pension plans. The only issue left was the Governor's plan to abolish the unions altogether -- except, of course, for the union groups that had supported Walker's campaign for governor.

fishhead
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fishhead 02/23/11 - 04:00 pm
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When the Master calls you answer the phone

http://www.startribune.com/politics/116723009.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaE...

"Walker believed the caller was a conservative billionaire named David Koch, but it was actually a liberal blogger. The two talked for at least 20 minutes — a conversation in which the governor described several potential ways to pressure Democrats to return to the Statehouse and revealed that his supporters had considered secretly planting people in pro-union protest crowds to stir up trouble."

JohnBrown
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JohnBrown 02/23/11 - 04:17 pm
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Walker

A 20 minute phone conversation and the Governor didn't recognize the voice?

I think that's the definition of bff.

fishhead
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fishhead 02/23/11 - 04:22 pm
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When your Master calls you

When your Master calls you don't ask any questions.

Lifelongresident
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Lifelongresident 02/23/11 - 04:48 pm
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It's kinda like

It's like when George Soros calls President Obama to lay down the law!

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minnesnowda 02/23/11 - 04:51 pm
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LOL, best laugh of the day

the Wisconsin Governor spills his guts to an unknown phone caller........

incredibly stupid.......off the chart stupid stupid, in fact.

fishhead
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fishhead 02/23/11 - 08:17 pm
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Still got a boo boo Barney

Still got a boo boo Barney over having your extremely offensive post removed? Poor baby!

Yes that clause he slipped in about the NO BID sale of the power plant sounds like a typical deal the wealthy use to amass more wealth. It has the stench of ENRON all over again.

No doubt the sale will be to someone in the energy industry.

What's this?....I'm so surprised! The Koch brothers are in the energy industry. Who could have guessed?

Let me try to figure this possible ROI out. $1 million for Scott Walker for governor ads and $38,000 direct purchase (I mean campaign contribution) to Scott Walkers campaign.

For $1,038,000 they get their candidate elected and then their candidate sells some power plants with no bid contracts.

Should they get these power plants they will hold complete control of the heating and cooling of the government buildings. Think MONOPOLY.

Taxpayers will probably never find out and even if they do there won't be anything they can do about it.

There kids, now you have another story of how taxpayers get the shaft and the billionaires get the cash.

But wait! There's more! And wouldn't you know it the Koch brothers might benefit again. Governor Walker slipped some clauses into his bill that would limit penalties for things like oh let's see......oil spills. Don't the Koch empire have pipelines in WI? Why yes they do kids.

See it's really not so hard to be a billionaire after all.

minnesnowda
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minnesnowda 02/23/11 - 10:42 pm
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spell apology right and I'll consider it

barnet69 (whatever)
most of your posts offend me
get over it

Lifelongresident
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Lifelongresident 02/24/11 - 10:55 am
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Speaking of billionaires!

Personally the events that are taking place in WI are far less troubling than what is happening in Libya. The events in WI may have some consequences for unions but the events in Libya are going to hit all of us in the pocketbook in the form of higher gas prices. Fish do you think that Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi pays his share of taxes or distributes the wealth in his country?

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