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Open forum: Wealth moves around

Posted: January 12, 2011 - 9:04pm

One of the things that grates a little is when I hear the line "only the private sector creates wealth not the government." All wealth is created and has been here since the beginning it is not created by a business model or a type of government. It is moved around from one person or group of persons to another but it isn't created except by God. When it slows its movement the economy goes into a recession when it stops the economy goes into a depression, when it speeds up to much we have runaway inflation but the wealth stays the same.

Another is the way Christians rationalize their support of free market capitalism I understand atheist and economist Ayn Rand's support and promotion of it, as Rand objected to any interference with greed. The main tenet of free market capitalism is the promotion and exploitation of greed, the Bible has several references to greed. One that nearly everyone knows is the commandment thou shalt not covet. Others are thou shall have no other Gods before me, and the love of money is the root of all evil. There are many others but the rationalizing of these into capitalism as the only acceptable economic model is hard to understand. Well, maybe not, there is a lot of evil around and everyone seems to have their own favorite sin.

I favor some type of hybrid type of economic model which combines the better parts of other models free market capitalism which looks very good in a laboratory setting with rigid controls is very destructive in the real world. Socialism has some of the same drawbacks. Many experiments are performed that reach wonderful results that come out very different when conditions change or when the person conducting them change employer.

Jesse Nix

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fishhead
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fishhead 01/13/11 - 08:04 am
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The "Free Market" is just a

The "Free Market" is just a myth promoted by the same people who have destroyed it with their back door deals, no bid billion dollar military contracts, closed door bill writing by business lobbyists, and "campaign contributions".

The market is rigged. Heads they win. Tails we lose.

Still they dangle the myth that if you work hard, forgo pleasure today for a better tomorrow you too can become wealthy. It's true that does happen but so does being struck by lightning with about the same frequency.

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tripwire3 01/13/11 - 08:35 am
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Knock it off, Fish

Your vitriolic comments will get someone shot.

wolfg1
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wolfg1 01/13/11 - 08:36 am
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Fish, Sorry you couldn't make

Fish,

Sorry you couldn't make it in "the land of opportunity"

I guess the system is rigged against you.

edbot1
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edbot1 01/13/11 - 10:52 am
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'Wealth moves around'

Jesse Nix, this letter is incoherent. Shame on the Dispatch.

pdnet15
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pdnet15 01/13/11 - 03:44 pm
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edbot1

Everything Nix writes is incoherent!

ecocafemx
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ecocafemx 01/13/11 - 05:02 pm
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I

I wonder where he got schooled at?

ecocafemx
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ecocafemx 01/13/11 - 05:08 pm
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First, you need to be able to

First, you need to be able to comprehend what you read! AKA The Bible. Taking a serious book out of context is dangerous and ignorant.
2nd-- You need to study capitalism-- So you can make intelligent comments about capitalism, which you don't understand.
3rd Hybridizing- taking the best of 2 supposedly good political structures and combining does not mean you will have a better system, you will have a disaster. AKA- our current economy of Obama is trying that and Bush did a pretty good job of trying to combine them and caused a disaster..
Answer--Ron Paul

Do_Not_Take_My_Gun
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Do_Not_Take_My_Gun 01/13/11 - 05:27 pm
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God and Capitalism

Dear Jesse,

I disgree with my buddies, I think what your wrote is one of the best thinks I have ever read here in the Dispatch. When I read this, I said to myself, "now, there's a woman who knows her bible!".

What the bible teaches us is that god does love capitalism. Even though we are not supposed to covet, god loves a wealthy person who can invest talents. this is seen in the parable of the folks who got 1, 20, 100 talents etc (which is a cymbal for money, obvious). God loved the one who went out and invested the talents and reaped back many more talents than he sewed. Just like those folks with the talents, god loves the wise investor.

After all, how can one do good through philanthrowpy without making a lot of money first? Make the money first, then do god's will and good deeds. That is god's way and it is the american way.

One think to be sure of though. God does not like taxes, and he does not like libs, gun control, and the homosexual ways taking over in this country. that is all more important than money. just have to keep god's will in mind in all we do and say and think and ways to behave, etc.

DNTMG

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Lifelongresident 01/13/11 - 06:43 pm
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Fish

In light of what President Obama said last night about how we should treat each other I'm not even going to respond to your post...it's the new kinder and more gentle me!!

fishhead
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fishhead 01/13/11 - 07:36 pm
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Don't worry Jesse. The

Don't worry Jesse. The abusive comments just mean they didn't understand what you wrote. That's nothing new.

The less they understand the more they post juvenile personal attack comments.

fishhead
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fishhead 01/13/11 - 10:30 pm
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WE CAN'T! Wail the Republicans

The session has barely started and the Can't Do Republicans are already crying and ready to go home. They are planning on shutting down the government in order to protect the wealthy.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/local/113532764.html?elr=KArksLckD8E...

Will any of them forego their government checks and taxpayer subsidized health care if they shut down the government?

I doubt it.

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Lifelongresident 01/13/11 - 11:19 pm
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mmmm "can't do Republicans"

Thanks Fish that's a good one...man you are one funny dude!! I'm glad that you are always so happy to share your goodwill and hope with this board.

fishhead
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fishhead 01/14/11 - 08:07 am
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Only tax breaks for the wealthy are important to the GOP

If the Can't Do Republicans shut down government in an effort to protect the profits of the wealthy what will happen to the permits in the pipeline? What about the licenses?

What will businesses do while they wait for the Republicans to start doing their jobs again and let the permits be approved and licenses be renewed?

Will unemployment checks for those lazy working class Minnesotans be issued during the Republican tantrum?

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pdnet15 01/14/11 - 08:30 am
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Fish

Shut up. You have got to be the most boring blogger here. Broken record!

Lifelongresident
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Lifelongresident 01/14/11 - 09:59 am
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Right on Fish!

Fish knows that the only way to move this Country forward is to listen to the far Democratic Left and to move the socialistic and communistic forms of government forward. There is no hope for a Country that bases it's success on innovation and achievement. We must finally get it through our thick skulls, and Fish is a leader on this, that the only way for us to be successful is to turn our body, mind and souls over to the State.

Right on Fish!!

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wolfg1 01/14/11 - 10:11 am
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Fish is still young, but he's

Fish is still young, but he's given up, and it's everyone's fault but his own.

Do_Not_Take_My_Gun
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Do_Not_Take_My_Gun 01/14/11 - 12:35 pm
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Fishie, Fishie you are squishie, squishie

Ha ha, well, when I read what Fishie wrote up above, and what my buddies wolfg1 and lifelongresident wrote, I said to myself, "now its time to try some poetry". Not much rymes with Fishie though so I guess it is not much of a poem.

However I want to riterate what lifelongresident says about a county that bases it's success on innovation, etc. I could not agree more with you, oldtimer!

The truth of the matter is, and what the libs hate to even hear about, is that the democrat party is all about turning everything over to the state. we know from our history books how that turned out, with lennon, stalin and even hitler, it was a disaster for every country that ever tried it and its a disaster for it's citizens because of the thinks that happen when you lose innovation just as lifelongresident says and when you go down that road there is no turning back only with great difficulty.

That is why it is so important to vote the democrat party out of office. there is nothing wrong in america today that was not made wrong by the democrat party and it's liberal ways, what with special rights for gays and taking away our guns and that is just the beginning. Not only that, but name one single think that happened that was any good that came out of any democrat president.

As for shutting the govment down, i am all for that if that means the libs cannot pass these dangerous laws such as getting guns off the street (by that i mean away from the hands of criminals and muslims and into the hands of americans just protecting there property).

I thing that fishie, fishie its time for some squishie, squishie, if you know what i mean!

No more libs! Its time to start a movement!

DNTMG

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tripwire3 01/14/11 - 01:57 pm
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Geez, LLR

We've never seen this side of you.

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dean1961 01/14/11 - 02:12 pm
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Next election

Fish should run for Governor and DNTMG can be Lt. Governor. That would be a riot!

Do_Not_Take_My_Gun
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Do_Not_Take_My_Gun 01/14/11 - 03:29 pm
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Thank you, Dean

Howdy friends, well i am halfway laugling because when I read what dean had to suggest, I said to myself, "run for office? heck at LEAST I WAS BORN IN THE UNITED STATS OF AMERICAN" unlike a certain person we all know, well I wont name names accept to say that its a "o.......bummer!" that it happened and they are hiding the truth about his birth certificate and their is no doubt about that!

But before i agree to run i want to know two things, first of all, why do i have to be lt gov why cant i have the top billing and second and more important of all is, is fishie fishie a member of the democrat party? cause if he is in the democrat party i won't have nothing to do with him.

HA HA just kidding fishie - bud! maybe we would make a good team.

DNTMG

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Lifelongresident 01/14/11 - 07:43 pm
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Don't worry Trip

I don't want to scare Fish off the board because it would be a shame that everyone that posts here doesn't get the opportunity to see a true Socialist/Communist that Fish is. I mean his tired old ideas come right from Karl Marx but he hides behind the fact that he is a Democrat, which I think gives Democrats a bad name.

fishhead
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fishhead 01/15/11 - 10:07 am
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You'll notice they rarely

You'll notice they rarely address the issues in my comments and instead focus on personal attacks and most of those are completely wrong.

FYI, I don't trust our government. I think government rarely does anything with high efficiencies but the same can be said of many corporations (30% waste in corporate health insurance) or our military. I've also seen firsthand what happens when government employees use the power of the government to punish citizens for personal reasons.

FYI. I don't put much trust in corporation to do what's right for workers or America. That's not their purpose although I think that it should be since that would result in sustainable profits. I also believe that corporations just like citizens have a responsibility to add to the world instead of only taking.

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Lifelongresident 01/15/11 - 12:34 pm
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Fish

"FYI, I don't trust our government."

B.S.!! you worship government, you adore it, it is your religion. The only time in your life that you turned on government was your fight with the DNR. All anyone has to do is read your posts to figure out the you buy into the far, far, far left agenda hook, line and sinker.

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fishhead 01/15/11 - 12:39 pm
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See what I mean? FYI, I voted

See what I mean?

FYI, I voted for someone besides Oberstar because I'm sticking to my pledge to not vote for another incumbent until we get 100% public financing of elections.

Do_Not_Take_My_Gun
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Do_Not_Take_My_Gun 01/15/11 - 01:26 pm
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Who did you vote for? are you kidding?

When I saw barnet ask old fishie who he voted for, I just had to say to myself, "your kidding, arent you? Who else would any of us up here vote for!"

I thing that that answer can only be, that when we vote we only vote for the republican ever. the dems is what got our country into all this trouble. the libs. look in the history books and imagine what a wonderful country this would be if didnt have to deal with the legally of rosevelt, truman, kennedy, etc and the other long painful horrible tradition of dems. thing about it. how could anyone vote for dem? look just in the past few years too. the economy was booming and times was good and then we made the mistake of electing obummer and what happens next but we have the banks collapse, a big finance crisis, home values fall, and the big 'ol recession as they call it and it can all be due only to one think, namely, obummer!

so in light of all this i dont know how anyone could ever vote for a member of the democrat party again. the democrat party is the root of all evil in america. the strict gun control that seized guns in arizona so that no one was carrying weapons to help fight that asaylant in the grocery store parking lot last weekend, that is only example right there. the most amazing think is that they wont even produce obummers birth certifficate that has to tell you a lot right there and they say that it is protected by religious freedom i guess and the muslim records no one can look at. but if they find it they will know the truth that obummer was born either in sauddi arabia or another middle east country, take your pick.

A famous person once said, "people get what they deserve". And if you voted for obummer or for that matter anyone from the democrat party, you got what you deserved!

DNTMG

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dean1961 01/17/11 - 03:56 pm
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Wrong

"I thing that that answer can only be, that when we vote we only vote for the republican ever."

While I am conservative, I don't vote for a party. Although not very often, I have voted for both Independents and Democrats. I have found that no matter who I vote for, I am usually disappointed.

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Do_Not_Take_My_Gun 01/17/11 - 05:36 pm
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well said, deanbuddy, but their is hope now

When I read your sad words, mr. dino, I was discurrieaged fora bit, but then i said to myself, "whoa, hold on now, what about the tea party?"

And it is the truth, Sir! As for voting for a member of the democrat party, you stumped me their. I dont think i could ever imagine voting for a democrat. after all, it is only one step away from socialism, which is one step away from nazism. And once they take the guns from us, then there is no stopping them. that is why it is every homes duty to be armed to fight them off when they come for us.

however if you are dizappointed by the republicans i totally get that, but their is hope, namely the TEA PARTY. plus it is a good christian party made up of folks like us that we can feel connected to.

so dont give up home my friend. sarah palin has a doggone good chance to be president she for sure has my vote!

DNTMG

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