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Open Forum: Oberstar's legacy: Wasteful spending

Posted: December 16, 2010 - 8:42pm

You've got to be kidding! Oberstar brought home the bacon? He produced all right! He was part of the reason why our country is in debt up to our eyeballs. We can't measure what he did for us. We have to measure what he did to us. His legacy is wasteful spending of the people's money.

Mr. Oberstar said he had "no regrets." Half of the people in District 8 had regrets and that is why we voted the way we did. We regret that he voted for cap and trade. We regret that he voted for the health care bill. We regret that he voted for the bailout of GM and Chrysler. We regret that he voted for the stimulus bill and the list goes on. People are waking up.

 We need congressmen in Washington to protect our rights and keep the country safe. Not to be our big sugar daddy. As Ronald Reagan once said: "Government is not the solution to our problem. Government is the problem. We've been tempted to believe that society has become too complex to be managed by self-rule; that government by an elite group is superior to government for, by and of the people."

We agree, Oberstar thought he was part of the "elite" group. And now we hear that he apparently is too elite to congratulate the winner and help in the transition.

Peggy Tautges

Fort Ripley

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rolflindy
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rolflindy 12/17/10 - 03:12 am
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Government's real role

The reason we are "in debt up to our eyeballs" is not based on Congressman Oberstar's bike trails. It has more to do with the Bush trillion dollar invasion of Iraq and the Bush trillion dollar tax cut.
And the technically ignorant President Reagan didn't grasp that the internet would be invented by the Defense Advanced Research Products Agency(DARPA), not Al Gore. And that the computer industry grew from government research agencies like NSA which funded Univac and Control Data here in Minnesota. A large number of new medical advances and products come from NIH and the government funded research at our universities. Then there is the whole renewable industry, wind, solar, biofuels, etc which is entirely dependent on government funding. The nuclear power industry grew out of the Manhattan Project. And the list goes on.
The simplistic " government is the problem" just doesn't cut it.

fishhead
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fishhead 12/17/10 - 07:45 am
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Is it true that the

Is it true that the Republican who replaced Oberstar got (gets?) an annual $79,000 disability for having sleep apnea?

Is that true? At least 30,000,000 Americans have apnea and continue to work. Why is Chip so special?

If his apnea is so bad that it can't be treated and so bad that he can't work why did the Republicans put him on the ballot?

Is it because when it comes to government checks the Republican philosophy is "Do as I say and Not as I do"?

fishhead
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fishhead 12/17/10 - 07:50 am
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Speaking of Republican freeloaders

I'll bet that a lot of the Republican posters here are getting government checks even as they label everyone (besides them of course) that gets a government assistance as a free loader.

Maybe the government should give them a voucher for a free mirror?

wolfg1
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wolfg1 12/17/10 - 08:01 am
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Fish, I believe he retired

Fish,

I believe he retired from the military and earned a pension. After evaluation by the VA, any service connected disability percentage may make part of his pension exempt from taxes. He does not receive extra for any of these. He simply gets a bit of a tax break on a pension he earned.

It was nice to see you embarass yourself though.

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minnboyz 12/17/10 - 08:42 am
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It was OK to authorize and

It was OK to authorize and vote for the bank/Wall Street (BUSH) bailout but not the auto industry? The auto industry actually produces something in this country. Rolf got it right!

We have been teetering on the edge of financial disaster for about 3 1/2 years.

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graydo 12/17/10 - 09:15 am
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Unimpressive

>>I'll bet that a lot of the Republican posters here are getting government checks even as they label everyone (besides them of course) that gets a government assistance as a free loader.

I can't imagine anything much less impressive than equating compensation for military service with welfare.

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1retiredguy2 12/17/10 - 09:19 am
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Fish and Rooolf

Not much out there less impressive than those two--------

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stevebusch 12/17/10 - 10:20 am
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cheating Uncle Sam

I have been stickin' it to the man (you) for over 40 years. I "felt pain in lower back" while eating lunch at basic training at Fort Leonard Wood, found an attorney to take my case($635.00/month settlement)in 20 minutes and the rest is none of your business. That's what governments are for. Thank you very muchand Merry Christmas

stevebusch
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stevebusch 12/17/10 - 10:31 am
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What did Reagan haveNASA do

What did Reagan haveNASA do that would improve Muslim self image? So, there!

rolflindy
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rolflindy 12/17/10 - 10:56 am
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Be specific

Retired guy: Vague personal insults don't cut it either. Need specifics like my post.
Rolf

rolflindy
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rolflindy 12/17/10 - 11:02 am
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Ft Leonard wood

Steve: Anybody who went through basic at Leonard Wood deserves a settlement.
Rolf

fishhead
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fishhead 12/17/10 - 06:48 pm
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I'm not how where you guys

I'm not how where you guys jumped to the wrong conclusion that I was referring to military pensions when I commented about government checks. I suppose because it's the most extreme view.

wolfy, I could be wrong but I believe Craavack got(still gets?) his disability check because he lost his commercial license because of apnea and not from any service related disability.

The only way I can think off relating service and apnea is if he sustained some damage to his airways that could not be corrected through surgery or CPAP.

There are at least 30,000,000 Americans with apnea that continue to work. There's no reason he could not find another job if he can no longer fly. His former airline employer could probably put him to work at a different job.

wolfg1
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wolfg1 12/17/10 - 07:57 pm
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"wolfy, I could be wrong but

"wolfy, I could be wrong but I believe Craavack got(still gets?) his disability check because he lost his commercial license because of apnea and not from any service related disability."

Then he is collecting a check for that from a union? Wasn't he also a commercial pilot for NW?

Let's see...a pension from at least 20 yrs service in the military...a pension from a career as a commercial airline pilot..

Oh yeah...he needs to be punished. He should pay more...

Is that your point? What was your point again?

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Lifelongresident 12/18/10 - 10:37 am
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Baby Talk comments

By rolflindy | 12/17/10 - 09:56 am
Retired guy: Vague personal insults don't cut it either. Need specifics like my post.
Rolf

I see that is ok when you personally insult someone on any comment they make but it is out of bounds when the same is done to you. I'd expect comments like that from Fish but I always thought that you were above that Rolf.

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