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Guns are a public health problem

Posted: February 8, 2013 - 3:22pm

My entire professional life has been practicing internal medicine, primarily cardiology. This was overlapped with two special experiences with guns. The first was the two years that I served in the United States Army Medical Corps during the Vietnam War, when I was instructed in the first version of the M16 assault rifle. The second was serving as a juror in a gun store robbery case in which two robbers and two clerks were alone in the store, all carrying handguns.

Seemingly lost in the conversation following the tragic gun deaths in Newtown, Conn., is the fact that for over two decades multiple physician organizations have published firearms position statements. This includes the American College of Physicians (ACP), which is the association of internists of which I was a member. The fundamental assertion in the ACP stance is “Gun violence and prevention of firearm-related injury and death are public health issues that demand high priority for public policy.” The purpose of this review is to outline the basics of this stance.

Some relevant statistical statements in the ACP paper are: “Despite surveys of firearm owners that indicate they believe guns provide them with protection, studies show that firearms in the home pose more of a threat to members of the household than to intruders (by at least 3:1)...the risk of suicide is fivefold greater...the risk of homicide three times...the greatest risk is from family members and close acquaintances...More teenagers die of gunshot wounds than of all natural causes combined...For every death involving firearms, twice as many victims need hospitalization and five times as many need outpatient care...the financial costs can be staggering...up to $4 billion annually in direct medical costs and $19 billion in indirect costs such as temporary or permanent loss of work.” (Annals of Internal Medicine, Vol. 128, Number 3, 1998. 236 - 241).

Based on such evidence, the ACP Position Paper made 16 recommendations, including the following basic three:

The college favors strong legislation to ban the sale, possession, and manufacture for civilian use of all automatic and semi-automatic assault weapons.

The sale and possession of handguns should be restricted.

Purchases should be subject to a background check...

The response of the gun lobby to such medical recommendations is to dismiss them and argue instead that unrestricted guns in more private hands are the best way to a safer society. The logical question is, however, since the U.S. has the highest per capita gun ownership in the world — six times more than the average of 24 other democratic nations — why do we have over 2 1/2 times more per capita gun deaths than these other countries? Why do we have six times the per capita gun homicides than Canada, and seven times gun suicides of Germany? Japan, South Korea, and Poland, average 1/10 the ownership and death rates of the U.S. The pro-gun argument predicated the opposite relationship — unless “safe” refers to something other than wrongful deaths.

Although assault weapons have justifiably been center stage because of recent tragedies, over 80 percent of gun homicides in the U.S. have usually involved handguns. In the case where I served as a juror, the “slippery-slope” for the defendant began when he exercised his constitutional right to buy one gun a week in rural Minnesota so he could resell them at 100 percent profit on gang-infested big city streets. The robbery to get more guns faster ended up with both armed store clerks shot in the face from six feet away. Laws work against this sort of enterprise, as was demonstrated in the difference between Seattle and nearby Vancouver after Vancouver adopted stricter handgun laws.

Long before Sandy Hook, the American Psychiatric Association pointed out that “...the risk of dangerous violence by persons with mental illness can most cost effectively be reduced with proven methods of prevention and treatment, especially for those who do not have access to care.” Most of the countries with significantly lower gun death rates than the U.S. have universal health care that greatly facilitates such prevention measures. However, newsworthy mass shootings by mentally disturbed persons account for a very small percentage of our 30,000 annual firearm deaths.

For decades the NRA and the AMA have opposed each other on gun issues. The NRA lobby helped kill a CDC research program on gun violence. The NRA didn’t like its study results but would not support supposedly better studies. The NRA also helped pass a Florida law that for privacy reasons prevented physicians from asking patients if they had guns as an occasion to remind them about gun safety. The AMA helped overturn the law.

International statistics demonstrate that despite a few cultural outliers, two of the most important correlates of national gun deaths are per capita gun ownership and the rigor of regulation. The NRA rebuttal of this evidence has been that unrestricted gun rights trump health concerns about collateral deaths and injuries. This approach allowed hundreds of millions of guns to flow into a populace with many careless, thoughtless, lawless, drug- or alcohol-addicted, and mentally ill persons. Now the NRA opposes background checks but expects the healing professions to identify the dangerous mentally ill to solve a problem they fostered. Gun privacy trumps health record privacy.

Gun rights are more legal than moral in that the law generally does not establish positive duties to the extent that ethics does. Slavery was once legal, but it was never moral. The second amendment includes the words “well regulated” but it does not set an ethical per capita “arms death limit.” Many democratic countries have low gun-death rates because part of their commitment to health is that dangerous items should be restricted. One benchmark is their record. Medical ethics is basically first to do no harm, and then produce maximum possible good. Because of political and ethical divides we lack the moral will to set a specific goal of gun-death reduction. Because of all our embedded guns, progress in reducing gun deaths will be slow. But moral duty dictates that change is the right thing.

CHARLES R. “DICK” PETERSON is a resident of Nisswa, a retired physician and a member of the Brainerd Dispatch Editorial Board.

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captron
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captron 02/08/13 - 05:30 pm
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Doc , Can we assume from what your saying

That some idiot gun owners may have a secret death wish ?

Or, that they dont actually believe anything that involves real actual factual material ? ( Not NRA propaganda)

So there is no confusion on the" Brain Trusts" part
Idiot gun owners are defined as those who leave weapons and ammo out for anyones access.

You want to be a responsible gun owner , lock them up.

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rubbyk 02/08/13 - 06:26 pm
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Here is some more facts doc,

Here is some more facts doc, The number one killer of americans 30 years ago was heart disease. After billions of dollars spent on pharmaceuticals the number one killer of americans is still heart disease. I think a doctor who has spent a career in cardiolgy should worry more about them numbers.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/08/13 - 06:39 pm
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DP, now tell us how to ban doctors.

It is a FACT that malpractice by hypocritical doctors kills more than 10 time the people that guns kill every year.
I think patients should answer any doctor's questions about gun ownership with a request to know how many times the doctor has been sued for malpractice.

shadrack
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shadrack 02/08/13 - 09:29 pm
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FnB, I suspect that doctors

FnB, I suspect that doctors save more lives than guns do, but that's not the argument here. The point on the table is "Why do we have six times the per capita gun homicides than Canada, and seven times gun suicides of Germany? Japan, South Korea, and Poland, average 1/10 the ownership and death rates of the U.S. " Does your NRA have any logical answer?

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/08/13 - 09:29 pm
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Apparently the good doctor

and his lefter friends don't like the truth.

shadrack
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shadrack 02/08/13 - 09:36 pm
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I see you're not answering my

I see you're not answering my question, FnB.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/08/13 - 10:47 pm
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The suicides

are mostly soldiers and those countries stay home and let Americans save them instead of doing it themselves.
As for the other, Your Lefter Media doesn't keep track or report when guns save lives, so that skews all your numbers.

Why are you calling them "My NRA"?
Did you take a look at the gun-grabs that are proposed in the Minnesota House? Or are you just trolling around tonight?

pickle
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pickle 02/09/13 - 03:58 am
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shadrack

I'LL tell you why we have more gun homicides
1)we have more guns
2)we have more Democrats
3)we have more stupid people (sorry that was # 2)

Tiredofliberalbs
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Tiredofliberalbs 02/09/13 - 05:24 am
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Gun Advise from my Physician.

Dr. Peterson said," Medical ethics is basically first to do no harm, and then produce maximum possible good." The Hippocratic oath doesn't mention producing maximum possible good. I know not everyone takes the oath at graduation Or changes are sometimes made by a certain school. Using that terminology to ask patients about gun ownership. I think every Physician should ask their patients if they are involved with a gang of any kind. And if they are found to be in gangs then that information would be sent to DC. Have EVERY member of EVERY street gangs arrested. If they have a gang Tattoo then they go to jail. Arrest em' all at once and house in warehouses using military tents and cots. The first jail sentence for being associated with gangs would be very short. Maybe 30 days to clear an area of guns that are actually being used by criminals. Then when they are ready to be debriefed they are free 60-90 days tops. The neighborhood has been swept for weapons so when they get released they go to find guns again. We round them up again and this time a gangster using or in possession of any gun would get an automatic 10 years

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stevebusch 02/09/13 - 07:44 am
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'The sale and possession of

'The sale and possession of handguns should be restricted."

By whom? To whom? During my tour we had 40 M1 rifles in our gun rackwith no shootings but 35 stabbings, Metal tableware should be restricted.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/09/13 - 08:13 am
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shad

1. gangs
2. mental illness
3.. evil people

4. not enforcing existing laws
5, The too liberal laws regarding mental illness and reporting

The guy in CA, I say mental illness not reported and no legal way to deal with it.

The guy that shot in the Family Research Council
building last summer - maybe evil.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/09/13 - 08:35 am
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shad

Next we canexpect our DR to ask if we have guns in the house and wherethey are located.

They already have some questions they have to ask women,,
if they are depressed and some other questions that I find irritating.

I do understand why they ask the questions and hopefully some women can get
help getting out of an abusive relationship by telling the DR.

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OldFarmBoy 02/09/13 - 09:08 am
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Man O Man

Sorry doc. I could not even read 1/2 that artical. You fit right in there with parker & milbank!!!! Not enough asprins in the world.

BTW doc the Vietnamese flower is also a public health risk!!!

Myeye08
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Myeye08 02/09/13 - 09:51 am
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Health risk ?

Do you mean that pesky oxen pasture weed that turned into a flower in your mind after passing through a shotgun or rifle barrel?

OFB, the public has to stand guard and be aware of these creative folk...fermented corn, barley, rye and rice also could be termed as a public health risk . Daily consumption of such fermented products could prompt a visit from the Public Health Safety Patrol and the State Department of Confiscation. Just think of all the good paying jobs, that are shovel ready, this would create!

towpro
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towpro 02/09/13 - 12:01 pm
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Stupidity

is also a public health problem... If stupid was illegal, our prisons and court systems would be overflowing.

Photos7
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Photos7 02/09/13 - 12:25 pm
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Enforce the Laws we have

Enforce the Laws already on the books, instead of using them as a bargain chip in court. If a gun is used in a crime them use the mandatory sentencing instead of letting the prosecutors have discretion in its use. I see by the BD that the feds did recently charge some one with the use or possession of a firearm. I wonder how many hunting licenses are issued to those that should not have firearms? Some laws will get passed that will keep some happy and others not. The lawmakers will pass something that probalby will not make any difference such as banning high capacity magazines. It only takes a second to change magazines. Ban assault style weapons? as I understand it, they have trouble defining what these are. Ban ownership for those that have a mental health issue, Who is going to define that and where do they draw the line on privacy.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/09/13 - 09:55 pm
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Apparently, when I told

Photos7 that it was nice to see someone with common sense posting instead of potheads, the moderator didn't agree with me.

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ecocafemx 02/10/13 - 09:56 am
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take out monsanto's roundup ready corn and teach gun safety

I think the doctor should go after monsanto roundup and go after the roundup ready dorito, wendys, mcdonalds, corporations,.. People are dying because people are sick because they've been bred by the public education system to be stupid.. Can't govern themselves, can't control there food intake, and now they don't even know how to use a gun..
Dump the education go back to bows, deer are lower in cholesterol and the challenge of using a bow is better

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/10/13 - 01:26 pm
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Myeye

Believe me you do not want to know what that flower is. The good Dr will know what it is though. I was told by my Bud who was a medic in Vietnam.

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mav7770 02/10/13 - 07:56 pm
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This just in.

Supposedly, according to Jesse Jackson. an AR 15 can "shoot down Planes" and " Blow up railroads"

How can you even associate yourself with this man while he tells such grandiose lies. Bush would be so proud of him.

Video in link.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/03/jesse-jackson-repeats-claim-t...

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/10/13 - 08:37 pm
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Mav

The problem is that southie,cap,bond & all those sheep will believe this because such a (Respectable man) Hee Hee. Told people that was the truth!!

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eyolf 02/10/13 - 09:59 pm
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The railroads thing is a little "republican"

But didn't a Marine shoot down a Zero with his Springfield at Pearl Harbor?

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