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White House learns 'leading from behind' works for U.S.

Posted: January 31, 2013 - 5:47pm

If Mali is any example, “leading from behind” is the right policy choice for the United States to follow in most of today’s international confrontations with what is now termed “terrorism.”

The Obama administration’s actions in the past months reflect it has learned some hard lessons from the United States’ 11 years fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq. The wars have cost the nation 6,300 U.S. lives, 50,300 casualties among American service personnel and about $1.3 trillion.

What’s one lesson?

“The best-intentioned foreign intervention is bound to bog its armies down in endless wars fighting invisible enemies to help ungrateful locals,” as the Economist magazine frankly wrote in its Jan. 26 issue.

Sound familiar?

How about what then-Defense Secretary Robert Gates told West Point cadets almost two years ago: “Any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as General Douglas MacArthur so delicately put it.”

On Tuesday night, former secretary of state George Shultz, in an appearance before the Council on Foreign Relations here in Washington, put it this way: “Iraq and Afghanistan cannot be the template for how we go about” dealing with threats of terrorism.

The Obama refinement to such intervefontion may be to provide intelligence and logistic support to those deserving such help and capable of receiving it. But the lead for using combat troops, “boots on the ground,” should be taken by those whose vital interests are directly involved - starting with the host government. Next should be neighboring countries. In the best of circumstances, they would be banded together in regional organizations, and, if possible, with authorization from the United Nations.

If the situation requires U.S. diplomacy to facilitate such collaboration and authority, fine. That is where the world’s greatest power should take the lead. If more hawkish Americans want to call this “leading from behind,” then that’s all right, too. Finally, when outside ground forces from a major power are required, it should come from a nation with historic roots in the host country.

France is a good example. It stepped up and took the lead by going into Mali, a former colony, in response to the Bamako government’s call for help. Another example is the international cooperation on the oceans off Somalia that has successfully been dealing with the piracy problem.

At Thursday’s Senate Armed Services Committee confirmation hearing for former senator Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., to become defense secretary, members are going to ask Hagel about his views on how to confront our numerous threats, including terrorism.

He would do well to echo some of the views Shultz stated Tuesday night.

Shultz said, “We have paid a very heavy price in this country in our response to “terrorism 3,” personally I think much too heavy.” He added that what is needed is “a much more precise strategy for dealing with the terrorism that arises mostly from a sometimes violent brand of Islam. . . . It’s not going to go away and we have to find a way to deal with it.”

Another lesson for the United States from Mali comes into play. Did that threat to the Bamako regime from a collection of groups represent a real danger to the U.S. homeland or its citizens? One group was made up of the nomadic Tuaregs who have been negotiating with and also fighting the central Mali government for decades. Their issues are domestic.

Then there is Ansar Dine, a more radical Islamic Tuareg group that has recently split into two elements. Add to the mix the so-called al-Qaida in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), a jihadist militant group that the United States has officially designated as a foreign terrorist organization.

Repeatedly described as an al-Qaida affiliate, it really is a guerrilla Islamic movement driven from Algeria by that country’s secular government in the late 1990s. In the early 2000s, it publicly claimed allegiance to al-Qaida in a move to aid recruiting and relevance. Since that time, some of its members have been fighting the United States in Iraq. And most recently it’s been alleged the group was involved in the Benghazi consulate raid.

But mostly, AQIM and the others are engaging in a long-standing tradition for this largely ungoverned desert area - where hostage-taking and ransoms, smuggling and drug-trafficking have been a way of life.

As the Economist notes, “Some of them, waving the banner of Islam, have seized on legitimate local grievances fueled by poverty, discrimination and the mismanagement of corrupt governments.”

The United States needs better intelligence to help separate thugs and gangsters using terrorist tactics from groups

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that are really global jihadists whose aim is to do harm to the United States and its citizens. That requires human intelligence on the ground. That’s a difficult and time-consuming process, made even more complicated for CIA case officers because often unsavory, even criminal agents are needed to penetrate jihadist groups.

Drones are useful for surveillance and even attacking known terrorist units, but it’s human intelligence that is required to separate the real terrorist threat from the gangsters or even insurgent elements that have legitimate demands against their governments.

That brings up one cautionary note.

As the United States plans to bring its drones or other types of air surveillance to North Africa, it should take care where it bases U.S. equipment and personnel. As I learned 40 years ago when I ran an investigation into the U.S. military abroad for Sen. J. William Fulbright, D-Ark., then-chairman of the upper chamber’s Foreign Relations Committee, the presence of U.S. troops in a foreign country is almost as good as a treaty when it comes to defending the home country’s leaders in power.

Both Niger and Burkina Faso, mentioned as possible basing sites for U.S. military surveillance teams, have been listed in the 2011 State Department Report on Human Rights Practices as having security forces that use excessive force against civilians and engage in extrajudicial killings. Like it or not, the United States will be linked as supporting those governments by their citizens.

Even “leading from behind” has its dangers.

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captron
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captron 02/01/13 - 08:43 am
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Quick somebody call John McCain & EXPLAIN this to him

Based on McCains performance the other day ( Chuck Hagel hearing) RE: the infamous surge comment , McCain just cant get over facts nor history.
John McCain its time for you to concentrate on where all your homes are.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/01/13 - 09:39 am
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Hmmmmm

I agree and might I add a few more who because of the
years they have been there, not their age should leave the senate. Shumer, Leahy, Rockefeller ( is leaving), Boxer, Feinstein, Reid, Durbin, McConnell, Shelby, Grassley,
Harken (leaving) Mikulski, Levin, Cochran, and Hatch.

Having said that Hagel doesn't seem very bright.
He is not like Hillary who can skate around the best of them.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/01/13 - 09:41 am
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John Kerry's homes

I wonder if they ask John Kerry how many homes he has?

The two of them have many homes and money thanks to the
estates their wives inherited.

southie11
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southie11 02/01/13 - 10:18 am
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Pass on Hagel

Hagel doesn't have a strong, physical and mental appearance. He looks like someone who got his hand caught in the cookie jar.
He already looks tired with his baggy eyes, so imagine how he would be in four years.

OTOH, if you have friends like McCain, who needs enemies? He campaigned for John, the warmonger, but seemed to sit and take his bullying bluster with little in the way of a response.

How about a candidate with stature and intellect? Anyone have a nominee?

Bubba Yumbo
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Bubba Yumbo 02/01/13 - 10:25 am
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If by "leading from behind" you mean "looking before you leap",

sounds like common sense. The realists vs. the neo-cons debate will outlive cockroaches, though.

I was embarrassed for Sen. McCain yesterday. He rudely attacked his former good friend and Republican colleague, Sen. Hagel, basically because Hagel doesn't agree with him on (anything concerning) the Iraq fiasco. It was a petty display of political theatre that didn't improve our understanding much re: Hagel as a possible Secy of Defense. Confirmation hearings are always improv political theatre, but this was silly. McCain needs to figure out a forum to express his frustrations off of the public dime.

If it's time for Oberstar to leave public life, I'd suggest it might also be time for an increasingly bitter John McCain to "enjoy retirement". He's transformed from esteemed elder statesman (respected across party lines), to Dennis-the-Mennis's neighbor, crochety Mr. Wilson, in less than five years. He's not wearing it well.

That said, Hagel did poorly in the 8-hr. grill-job yesterday. He was inarticulate, unclear on some current policy positions, and basically unprepared for the expected barrage of attacks. I wish more questions would have been asked about future policy concerns and how he'll manage a leaner DOD, but he didn't even do well discussing the past.

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southie11 02/01/13 - 11:56 am
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John McCain needs mental health

treatment for his PTSD. He gets himself in an angry rage and makes no attempt to listen. Time to retire, John. Go visit Sara Palin and reminisce about your great days in the limelight.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/01/13 - 12:48 pm
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Interesting Southie I didn't

Interesting Southie I didn't know you were a professional psychologist. So it is OK to diss a war hero who was a captive for years. I agree it is time for him to retire as well as the others that I named in my earlier post.

I'm not qualified to diagnose Harry Reid.

In my opinion, those senate shows are usually a waste of time and money especially if it involves a present or past member of their "group".

The "realists vs the neo-cons" was a funny, wasn't it?
Who are the neo-cons?

Bubba Yumbo
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Bubba Yumbo 02/01/13 - 01:27 pm
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Sadie, it's just parlance of international relations-speak,

though admittedly it sometimes sinks to the level of bad comedy. This is a pretty good (non-esoteric) article with recent twist: http://nationalinterest.org/blog/jacob-heilbrunn/neocon-versus-realist-r....

localmotive
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localmotive 02/01/13 - 04:05 pm
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Heilbrunn

Haven't read much of what he writes or thinks but, he appears to be a bed-wetter.He could care less about the defense of America, probably because the vote buying power of a strong defense and foreign policey is limited.Kimberly-Clark could be in for a strong few years if Hagel gets in. Not a hundred % sure...it just depends.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/01/13 - 04:26 pm
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neo-con word is over-used

The domestic give-away programs are effective vote buying incentives for democrats but, what has all that accomplished?
People in the the inner cities especially where the unemployment is very high, food stamp usage is higher,
incentive to work and jobs available is lower.

A good foreign policy is not for the weak minded as it usually doesn't buy votes. I did look at the link you offered, I care about this country and protecting the borders and beyond.
For that, I think we should be proactive.

southie11
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southie11 02/01/13 - 08:16 pm
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Actually, yes, Sadie,

I do have a degree in that field.

McCain's military record has been lackluster. He crashed several planes in training and before the final crash and graduated at the bottom of his class at West Point. (894th out of 899th). It is obvious that nepotism got him into West Point, but it might not have been the best career path for him.

I respect his endurance through his captivity. PTSD was largely undiagnosed and treated in his day. It would have affected some mens's status in the service if they had sought treatment.

The current suicides of Afghan and Iraqi American veterans and soldiers indicates that a lot more needs to be done to help our troops.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/02/02/us-usa-veterans-suicide-idUSBR...
The wait for treatment at the VA is unconscionable.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/01/13 - 05:01 pm
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southie

One plane crash was his fault the other due to engine failure.
Another on a ship was not his fault due to accidental missile fire on another plane. The last one, well, it was shot down,

As a professional,you should look up the information before
degrading a person's reputation. I always thought you were a teacher. I thought you said a civics teacher.I guess you could be both after all I've had my share of jobs.

Now, can you give your opinion on John Kerry's military career. Was it also lackluster, did he really earn his medals?

Could it be that McCain just gets frustrated at incompetence?
I really don't care for the man but, do respect him and don't care where he placed at the academy.

southie11
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southie11 02/01/13 - 11:39 pm
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Fact check that "engine failure" incident

It seems sources deem it to be his failure. Five crashes...two certainly pilot error. Time to find a new career?

John Kerry was like many guys my age. He enlisted and did not intend to make it a career. His family's status (father in government employment plus member of Forbes family) certainly assured him a short assignment in Vietnam. But he did his duty, and then came home and made an impassioned and thoughtful speech before congress about ending the war.

I have no idea about his medals. I assume everyone gets them for service. But he was mocked by the Swift Boaters during his campaign. Wonder where they are today?

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/02/13 - 08:22 pm
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Getting a degree only takes

money. It doesn't make you intelligent in the subject. southie flunks this time, just like about half the HS graduates should. But don't feel bad, Lefter, your arrogance is noted and expected. I'm sure the Senate will be asking for you to diagnose the mental status of all the Democrats too.
What a twit.

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