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Background checks: Putting the brakes on mentally ill gun purchases

Posted: February 13, 2013 - 7:09pm

“We think it’s reasonable to provide mandatory instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show — no loopholes anywhere for anyone.”

It sounds like a statement that could have been issued by the White House following the shootings in Connecticut. No, it was a statement issued by National Rifle Association (NRA) Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre on May 27, 1999. It followed the slaughter of innocents at Columbine High School.

So now the NRA executive vice president is on record saying that universal background checks will not have participation from criminals or the mentally ill. Perhaps.

However, criminals will steal the weapons they need, or buy a weapon on the black market, which is a criminal element controlled by criminals. So, perhaps he’s right. Criminals wanting a gun will not show up at Mills or Gander Mountain to buy a gun. If gun show background checks are mandatory, they won’t show up there either. However, I haven’t seen too many criminals at any gun shows I have frequented.

However, when it comes to the mentally ill getting their hands on a gun, there might be a means of keeping them away from owning, buying or possessing a gun. If everyone is subject to a background check, one additional question could be added to the questionnaire. In fact, make a box to check, authorizing the licensed federal firearms license holder to check one’s medical records for any mental health issues. This might take a bit longer with an antiquated system that currently does not allow for such a check, but it is possible with all of the information contained in the computerized records of law enforcement and health providers.

Wait a minute, one might protest. Doesn’t that violate current HIPAA laws? “The Office for Civil Rights enforces the HIPAA Privacy Rule, which protects the privacy of individually identifiable health information,” states HHS. Perhaps, but by checking a box on the background questionnaire, one would willingly release such information. Unchecked boxes on the questionnaire would cancel the sale. (Keep in mind, the background check would select only information about a person’s mental health care, not one’s entire medical portfolio.)

One might consider this a major roadblock to passage of any legislation that would seek to close that loophole that has allowed several recent mass killings to be perpetrated by persons with documented mental health issues.

Keith Hansen

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OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/14/13 - 10:19 am
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Keith

If they have to check that box. Then there is no way cap could be an air marshal.

pdnet15
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pdnet15 02/14/13 - 05:39 pm
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I think if people have to start acknowledging their mental

illness to the government, for what ever reason, you will have less people looking for help. And why do we have background checks on the same people to buy a gun, but it is considered unconstitutional for them to register their illness to vote?

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/14/13 - 06:00 pm
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On the bright side

It would outlaw most of the politicians from gun ownership. Next we need to disarm their taxpayer paid bodyguards.
Only a government controlled by id iots would take away a citizens' only means of protection and claim they did it to make them safer!

missionary
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missionary 02/14/13 - 07:22 pm
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Gubner Mumbles Dayton has

Gubner Mumbles Dayton has been treated for mental illness, would this automatically disqualify the babbling liberal from gun
ownership?

lelandism
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lelandism 02/15/13 - 08:37 am
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Licensed gun dealers...

are not qualified to read mental health records and make a determination of who is and isn't "okay" to own a gun.

Register all guns. When they show up in the hands of a criminal, trace it backwards and find out why. If they don't show up in crime, the record will sit in a stack of files (or gigabytes thereof) and nobody will care if you have your supplemental manhood stored in your closet (well... at least not until you brag about it, your home is broken into, and the gun shows up in the hands of a criminal).

lelandism
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lelandism 02/15/13 - 09:42 am
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"And why do we have

"And why do we have background checks on the same people to buy a gun, but it is considered unconstitutional for them to register their illness to vote?"

Because one vote can't take out a president, but one bullet can.

Photos7
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Photos7 02/15/13 - 10:01 am
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Define Mental Illness

Who is going to define Mental Illnesss? Which "Mental Illness" will preclude gun ownership? If treated for mental illness does that mean the person can not be in the military or law enforcement or have a hunting license? Yes, some law or rule will be passed to make a few happy so the politician can say they did something to make us "Safe" . Whats next? you may need a mental health check to get a driver license or buy a kitchen knife at your local store.

lelandism
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lelandism 02/15/13 - 10:14 am
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Will the NRA

Millions of people live with undiagnosed or untreated mental illness. Will the NRA push to mandate that everyone get's a psyche eval?

Photos7
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Photos7 02/15/13 - 06:43 pm
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Determination

After the Evaluation who will determine if the person has a mental health problem? Some mental health providers are in conflict now with each other on diagnosis and appropriate treatment.

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