• Overcast
  • 57°
    Overcast

sponsored by Edina Realty

  • Comment

High court to hear health care bill arguments

Obamacare on trial

Posted: March 25, 2012 - 8:06pm

Oral arguments for and against the legality of Obamacare begin today at the United States Supreme Court. There will be six hours of debate. The 4,000- page document that calls for health insurance to cover every American has reached the highest court in the land.

Arguments for nationalized health care, as presented by the government’s attorneys, will contend that yes, Congress can force individuals to buy insurance. In fact, the administration’s speaking heads suggest that it just as legal as those states that force drivers of automobiles to buy car insurance.

The bill that passed a Democrat controlled U.S. House of Representatives and Senate has been debated since the day it was passed.

During mid-term elections in 2010, the Tea Party was formed to specifically attack Obama’s health care law, claiming the bill, which goes into effect in 2014, is unconstitutional.

Some argue that the law dictates to states that Medicaid eligibility (state funded health care for the poor) must be expanded, or those states that fail to go along with the government’s plan will lose federal dollars.

Make no mistake about it — Obamacare will be debated long after these hearings. In fact, it might be one of the most contentious issues to envelope the 2012 presidential campaign, along with high gas prices and a growing concern over inflation that seems to be gripping our economy.

Whether or not the health care law violates the U.S. Constitution’s Commerce Clause is somewhat academic, in that affordability is at the root of the entire sweeping change in health care across America. Can our stumbling economy afford to spend trillions of dollars without borrowing more to cover the costs when our national debt is already choking off any long-term recovery?

In a perfect world, the government should pay for everything proponents might argue. We don’t live in a perfect world. In fact, our nation should have realized with the financial collapse in 2008 we have champagne tastes and a beer budget. We should be coming to grips with the reality that for only the second time in our nation’s history we have a receding economic standing in the world. Other nations that were once considered among the poorest are beginning to thrive and stand ready to take our place of dominance on the world stage.

Whether one agrees with the administration’s attempt to socialize health care or not, we simply cannot afford the economic impact it will have on our nation’s struggling economy.

—Keith Hansen

  • Comment

Comments (14)

Add comment
ADVISORY: Users are solely responsible for opinions they post here and for following agreed-upon rules of civility. Posts and comments do not reflect the views of this site. Posts and comments are automatically checked for inappropriate language, but readers might find some comments offensive or inaccurate. If you believe a comment violates our rules, click the "Flag as offensive" link below the comment.
captron
25926
Points
captron 03/26/12 - 08:14 am
6
4

Make no mistake about it Keith

You better figure out who it is NOW who pays for the care of the uninsured. Thank goodness Keith you or any of your friends and family do not now , or ever develop a preexsisting medical condition that sends someone into chapter 11.

lakelander
708
Points
lakelander 03/26/12 - 09:34 am
6
3

Keith doesn't even get some elementary facts correct,

so how can we trust anything he says?

Even Fox says:
A recent Fox News survey found...the 2,700-page law..."

4,000 vs 2,700...oh, what's a 48% inflation of the figures?

PS: spelling alert...don't read if you don't care. Keith, it is "envelop", not envelope. (paragraph 6)

Happy Monday!

lakelander
708
Points
lakelander 03/26/12 - 10:27 am
2
2

headline fail

argument...not arguement

ha ha richie...that is funny actually

lakelander
708
Points
lakelander 03/26/12 - 10:54 am
4
2

CSPAN

has a great discussion on right now.
I just heard that the Part D, the (Bush supported) drug coverage under Medicare is a mandate. If you don't purchase it at age 65, then you are penalized by higher premiums when you do enroll. Holy cow!

RichRule peasantsdrool
73
Points
RichRule peasantsdrool 03/26/12 - 03:17 pm
3
1

?

?

Oakleaf
127
Points
Oakleaf 03/26/12 - 10:34 am
5
3

"WE" -- What do you mean by "WE"?

Keith - If you're goal is to irritate subscribers, it's working. I'm especially irritated by part of your last sentence -- "we simply cannot afford the economic impact it will have on our nation’s struggling economy."

Who is in the "WE"? Are the families who face bankruptcy because of healthcare costs in your WE? Are the small business owners who would like to offer health insurance but financially can't? Are the people who are trapped in their present jobs because they can't change jobs and risk not qualifying for health insurance?

Let's try defining WE as THE COMMON GOOD. WE can't continue the way we are, WE need access to healthcare for all, WE need to care for our neighbors.

OldFarmBoy
36576
Points
OldFarmBoy 03/26/12 - 12:01 pm
2
7

Oak

The last sentance did not irritate me. Does the truth hurt or what? Remember nobody is forcing you to live here. (unlike this Gov healthcare stuff being forced on us) You are free to live in another country if you want. Like Mr. Hansen says this Country can not afford it. Plain & Simple.

Bubba Yumbo
18851
Points
Bubba Yumbo 03/26/12 - 03:42 pm
8
1

The first sentence of this piece was generally accurate

except for the pejorative "Obamacare" moniker. Beyond the first sentence, it's riddled with inaccuracies, (intentional?) exaggerations, and generalized bloviating. I'm sensing a pattern with this author.

Steve Benen nailed it when he said "opponents of reform are counting on the typical American not knowing the details, which makes them more vulnerable to scare tactics and bogus claims. These same activists are also counting on news outlets a) being afraid to say who's lying and who isn't; and b) not being sure about the details themselves.

It's not exactly a recipe for a constructive national dialog. Indeed, it's an invitation for manipulation and/or distraction."
(http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_07/019249.php

No one's arguing for "nationalized" (or "socialized") health care, as you put it, Mr. Hansen. Private insurers prevail, stronger than ever; your doctor will still be on Main Street or in Medical Plaza, USA, and the birds will still be singing their songs.

Correcting more inaccuracies, the Tea Party wasn't formed in 2010 (in fact, it's not a political party, but rather a wing of the Republican party formed in 2009). And the T.P. wasn't "formed to specifically attack Obama's health care law" (parts of which are already successfully in place).

And all of your sky-is-falling hysteria over "we can't afford this" is balderdash. Recent (March 2012) CBO numbers are even better than projected: "Obamacare" will pay for itself, and more Americans will be able to gain access to the necessary health care they've long gone without.

To date, opponents of HR 3962/"Obamacare" have spent 4x more than proponents, engaging in lots of fear-mongering and disinformation. This doesn't serve the health care needs of anyone.

PaulBunyansGF
265
Points
PaulBunyansGF 03/26/12 - 04:04 pm
7
1

Write something thoughtful

Our new editor or VP or whatever doesn't look very bright when he spews out the current Fox News/GOP talking points - anyone can do that. Pretty funny to read the big commentary right next to it which refutes, with facts, every one of his hysteria-inducing points. Come up with something original, thoughtful, or even true, Mr. Hansen.

lakelander
708
Points
lakelander 03/26/12 - 04:38 pm
7
1

Keith should stick to topics he knows

How about: The role of the community newspaper in the lives of its audience.
National politics is not his forte.

Fair n Balanced
40535
Points
Fair n Balanced 03/26/12 - 06:35 pm
1
5

If you think health care

is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free. P J O'Rourke

Bubba Yumbo
18851
Points
Bubba Yumbo 03/26/12 - 11:08 pm
4
0

O.K. -- I'll bite: "What will it cost when it's free?" Yumbo

What WILL the cost be then? Thanks so much for enriching us with your knowledge on this.

Putz
0
Points
Putz 03/27/12 - 12:53 pm
2
0

Captron and Chapter 11?

I was downsized, lost my job and employee benefits, paid for COBRA for 18 months, applied to BCBSMN, United Health and others, denied due to pre-existing condition, therefore qualified and purchased MN Care, very reasonable premiums based on what I had previously paid with my employer. Frankly, a $98 annual tax or 2.5% won't cover the administrations costs to verify non-insureds, more or less cover their costs when sick or injured. You and I will again pay for the slackers! Period!!! Coverage is available to all in MN if you prioritize your responsibilities. Only these individuals can avoid Chapter 11 by prioritizing their responsibilities. I found that you can afford to pay for coverage and avoid medical expense, unless you don't care enough, or are foolish enough to take the risk. Been there, done that!!

Fair n Balanced
40535
Points
Fair n Balanced 03/27/12 - 02:04 pm
0
0

Bubba

Like Nancy Pelosie said, we won't know that until it happens. Trust me, it won't be free and will cost most of us a whole lot more. As an aside, if it passes the Supreme Court America is doomed.

Back to Top

Spotted

Please Note: You may have disabled JavaScript and/or CSS. Although this news content will be accessible, certain functionality is unavailable.

Skip to News

« back

next »

  • title http://spotted.brainerddispatch.com/galleries/543863/ http://spotted.brainerddispatch.com/galleries/543858/ http://spotted.brainerddispatch.com/galleries/543848/
  • title http://spotted.brainerddispatch.com/galleries/543843/ http://spotted.brainerddispatch.com/galleries/543838/ http://spotted.brainerddispatch.com/galleries/543833/
  • title
Montessori Kindergarten Graduation

CONTACT US

  • Switchboard 218-829-4705
  • Report News 218-855-5860
  • Advertising 218-855-5835
  • Classifieds 218-855-5898
  • Circulation 218-855-5897
  • View the Staff Directory
  • or Send feedback

ADVERTISING

SUBSCRIBER SERVICES

SOCIAL NETWORKING