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Minnesota voters turn back gay marriage, photo ID proposals

Posted: November 7, 2012 - 3:39am

MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Minnesota voters turned back two constitutional amendments Tuesday, defeating proposals to ban gay marriage and require a photo ID for voting that had once been seen as likely winners.

Minnesota's rejection of the gay marriage ban was just one piece of a big night for gay activists and their allies nationwide. In Maine and Maryland, voters legalized gay marriage; in Washington, a measure to the same was leading. The wins were a resounding reversal of a 32-state winning streak for gay marriage opponents.

The defeat of the photo ID requirement was just as surprising, with the proposal drawing strong support in polls for months. Both amendments were put on the ballot by the Republican-controlled Legislature. Those same Republicans also lost their House and Senate majorities on Tuesday.

"This conversation doesn't end tonight. It's only just begun," said Richard Carlbom, campaign manager for Minnesotans United for All Families, which fought the gay marriage ban. "Because we beat this amendment, Minnesota is in a position to ensure that the next generation can participate in the conversation about who can participate in marriage."

Gay marriage remains illegal under Minnesota state law. The amendment would have put that prohibition in the constitution. But the outcome of the vote, and the Democratic takeover of the Legislature, is likely to initiate a push for legal gay marriage in the state.

Andy Parrish, deputy campaign manager for Minnesota for Marriage, which pushed the ban, was not ready to concede early Wednesday morning. "I think we're going to wait for the rest of the results to come in and see what the final results are in the morning," he said.

Conservatives around the country have been pressing to require photo ID for voting in the last several years. Eric Fought, spokesman for the campaign that opposed the measure in Minnesota, said its backers never convinced voters that the requirement was actually necessary.

"They did not provide the details people needed to vote yes on this. There were too many questions left unanswered and too many doubts," Fought said.

Dan McGrath, who led the campaign for the measure, said he and supporters would "continue to work towards greater integrity and transparency in our election process."

According to exit poll data, the marriage ban was opposed by a majority of women and backed by a majority of men. Votes were also divided by age, with voters under 50 against it by a substantial majority and those over 50 strongly in favor. Seven in 10 voters who attend religious services, and four in five born-again or evangelical voters supported it. The vote also split by party lines: three in four Democrats said they voted against it, and three in four Republicans backed it.

Both measures sparked campaigns that were far more heated than usual for constitutional amendments. The marriage amendment mobilized thousands of volunteers and attracted more than $16 million in campaign contributions, drawing more passion than the state's presidential or Senate contests. Voters held strong opinions.

Kevin Gensch, a human resources manager, is gay but said that's not why he voted against the ban.

"I don't think the constitution should be amended for any reason for a social issue," said Gensch, 34, after voting in St. Louis Park, an inner-ring Minneapolis suburb. "This is marrying church and state by putting this kind of amendment on the constitution. It doesn't belong there."

In Minneapolis, first-time voter Assan Shire voted for the gay marriage ban.

"I don't want gay marriage. I think it is wrong," said Shire, voting at a community center in the city's diverse Phillips neighborhood.

Strategy for all four campaigns against gay marriage, including Minnesota's, was directed by Frank Schubert, a California-based consultant who's become the nation's top political operative trying to stop the spread of gay marriage. But he was fighting demographic changes, with poll after poll nationwide showing that young people in increasing numbers support the right of gays to get married.

Opponents of Minnesota's amendment tried to persuade moderate and swing voters, aiming their TV ads at married couples and straight men in particular. That drew backlash from some gay activists, dismayed that none of the ads actually featured speaking parts for gay people who would be most affected by the amendment. The campaign also reached out more widely to various demographic groups, using narrowly targeted phone banks to reach senior citizens, younger voters and various ethnic and minority groups. The campaign for the amendment targeted much of its get-out-the-vote efforts on churchgoers.

Democratic politicians had argued that photo ID requirements were meant to make voting tougher for certain groups that tend to favor Democrats: elderly people, the poor, college students and members of minority groups. Local government officials also said the ID requirement would be a costly mandate.

A quirk in Minnesota law means a ballot where the voter skips one or both of the amendments is counted as a "no" vote against the amendment that was skipped. But in both cases, more people voted against the amendments than voted for them.

Copyright 2012 The Associated Press.

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Bubba Yumbo
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Bubba Yumbo 11/08/12 - 12:58 am
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Good points, as usual, Eyolf.

Thanks for your steadfast work!

motleylarry
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motleylarry 11/08/12 - 03:58 am
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I was asked for my ID when I

I was asked for my ID when I voted, no problem.

stevebusch
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stevebusch 11/08/12 - 08:29 am
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gay wedding health issues

Gay get-togethers or whatever they'll be called should not be held until enough vomitoriums have been constructed so when the administrator tells both grooms that "they may kiss
the bride, there will be plenty of troughs into which the attendees can hurl.

checkout the naughty nighties in the new Victor's Secret catalog.

captron
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captron 11/08/12 - 09:18 am
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Myth vs Math & Bridges Too Far.....

Pretty certain all you fans of shoot first legislation are going to have to pack up and move to another state to get that wish granted as well. ( FL) ?
Dont let the door hit you on the way out of the state !

Hopefully Republicons everywhere have actually learned something from the elections of 2012 ?

If nothing else maybe Jeb Bush will get some pointers on the Spanish language , before he emerges from that clown car in four years.

Mission Accomplished !!!!

shadrack
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shadrack 11/08/12 - 09:23 am
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thanks, scribble

Thanks for the information and link re: David Barton. A very scary man! While I'm not surprised to hear his influence on Bachman, I'm appalled at the idea of Bachman starting a group to indoctrinate newer representatives with Barton's fact-free theories.

Myeye08
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Myeye08 11/08/12 - 10:08 am
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NoDak

Southie, didn't North Dakota go with the GOP? The Dakotas survive without taxing the you know what out of ya. Maybe they are onto something !

lou
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lou 11/08/12 - 10:32 am
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rubbyk

Not the true black powder gun!!! The last time a bank robber stuck a gun in your face did you ask to see his ID, just saying!!! I do beleive that a person should show ID to vote, but I don't think ID should be provided for free I had to pay for my drivers license.

southie11
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southie11 11/08/12 - 11:53 am
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Heidi Heitkamp, Democratic US Senator-elect from North Dakota

Beat the GOP contender in a very red state. She is one of the new women US Senators and Representatives to win a first term in the surge against Republicans.

Without mining, North Dakota would be struggling. Now they are flush and considering doing away with property taxes, but that measure did not pass.

southie11
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southie11 11/08/12 - 11:56 am
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lou: if you have to pay for ID

that is by its inherent definition a poll tax.

Scribbles
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Scribbles 11/08/12 - 01:18 pm
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Saving Grace Perhaps...Bachmann for Senator 2014...NOT.!.

State wide voting like the Amendments...
Out of the Conservative Sixth and into the Big Wide Open State of Minnesota...

OkeyDokey
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OkeyDokey 11/08/12 - 01:42 pm
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Oh Steve....if you think you

Oh Steve....if you think you can't stomach a gay wedding, then you should just RSVP your regrets. Problem solved.

But have no worries. Even though the amendment failed, it's still not legal in MN. You'll be OK.

Myeye08
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Myeye08 11/09/12 - 09:13 am
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Turn off the lights

When the last F500 corporation leaves Minnesota, please turn off the lights. Then and only then will the truth be told that to support the public workers union employees and the liberal agenda of government in the center, a strong private worker base is needed. How will the DFL survive then?

Don't forget that NoDak and SoDak are in the upper mid west ag, production region and they were/are doing just fine with that alone. The oil boom in NoDak is just a bonus southie.

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