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Minnesota House eyes limits to gun access, ownership

Posted: February 5, 2013 - 8:10pm
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Gun rights advocate Andy Cers of Minneapolis listened to testimony during a Minnesota house public safety committee hearing on two bills dealing with the gun violence issue at the State Capitol Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2013 in St. Paul, Minn.  AP Photo
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Gun rights advocate Andy Cers of Minneapolis listened to testimony during a Minnesota house public safety committee hearing on two bills dealing with the gun violence issue at the State Capitol Tuesday, Feb. 5, 2013 in St. Paul, Minn.

ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) — A half dozen police chiefs and sheriffs argued Tuesday in a packed Capitol hearing room that Minnesota isn't doing enough to protect against gun violence, kicking off three days of hearings on a host of new proposed limits on firearm ownership.

Hundreds of people from both sides of the debate swarmed the Capitol office building for the hearing, jamming the committee room and several overflow areas a day after President Barack Obama visited Minneapolis to tout his federal gun-control proposals.

"For a whole host of reasons, we're not keeping guns out of the hands of individuals who shouldn't have them," said Dennis Flaherty, executive director of the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association. He was specifically backing a bill to require background checks for all gun purchases in Minnesota, cracking down on the sale of guns at shows, online or through unlicensed, private dealers.

That was just one of a dozen proposed limits on firearm ownership under review in the hearings in front of the House Public Safety Committee. The first day drew hundreds of gun owners and activists sitting alongside activists seeking tougher rules on who gets guns. While gun rights supporters wore buttons that read "Self Defense is a Human Right," activists on the other side had stickers that read, "Minnesotans Against Being Shot."

With Democrats controlling the Legislature, new limits on gun access have their best shot at the Capitol in a number of years. But the debate could expose divides between urban Democrats, who represent areas where new gun limits are popular, and rural Democrats from areas with high gun ownership and less support for serious curtailments on the ability to own weapons.

"The way to stop gun violence is with another gun," said Rep. David Dill, a Democrat whose sprawling district includes most of northeastern Minnesota's Arrowhead Region.

Dill said he's on the same page with the National Rifle Association in its opposition to the background check bill and most of the other gun proposals, and believes he has enough votes in the House to defeat changes in gun laws opposed by the NRA.

Gov. Mark Dayton, also a Democrat, has not wholeheartedly embraced new gun control measures; he told the Star Tribune on Monday that any changes would need support from rural lawmakers in order to get his signature.

The House committee chairman, St. Paul Democrat Michael Paymar, said he intends to assemble the best state-level proposals into an umbrella bill likely to be dubbed the "Gun Violence Prevention Act." He said the House is likely to vote on the package later in February.

The gun law push is less active in the Senate, also led by Democrats. Senate Majority Leader Tom Bakk said votes on any gun legislation would take a back seat to the Legislature's budget.

Besides the background check proposal, lawmakers on Tuesday reviewed a bill to let local police departments order a mental health evaluation on people who apply for the state permit that's required to carry a weapon. Other gun bills include proposals to ban the sale of assault-style automatic rifles and of certain types of ammunition clips.

Paymar wouldn't say which among the dozen proposals he thought should definitely be part of the final gun bill. Heather Martens, executive director of the gun control advocacy group Protect Minnesota, predicted the background check provision would almost certainly be part of the package.

"We're going to make some real progress this session," Martens said. She said people directly affected by gun violence understand the need for law changes, pointing to testimony Tuesday by the 17-year-old son of the Minneapolis business owner killed in last fall's fatal shootings at Accent Signage Systems.

"His American dream became an American nightmare," Sami Rahamim said of his father. Rahamim did not back specific proposals but spoke more generally of the need to tighten access to guns.

The background check bill would require all gun purchases in Minnesota to be made with federally licensed dealers. NRA lobbyist Christopher Rager said sales records of those purchases would eventually be turned over to federal law enforcement, creating a functional registry of all gun owners.

"Gun registration is something we have a concern about," Rager said. "There are many people who disagree with having their guns tracked, taxed and potentially taken away from them."

The NRA also raised objections to tougher mental health screening for gun permit applicants, and it found an ally in representatives from the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill. Sue Abderholden, director of the alliance's Minnesota chapter, said that would stigmatize the vast majority of mentally ill people who are not dangerous and discourage some people who need treatment from voluntarily entering programs out of fear it could weaken future gun ownership rights or just violate their privacy.

Rep. Tony Cornish, a Republican and NRA ally, had planned a bill allowing armed teachers in Minnesota schools as a preventive step against school shootings. While he criticized the Democratic bills up for debate Tuesday, Cornish said he decided not to introduce that measure as a separate bill since Dayton vowed to veto it.

But Cornish said he might resurrect his proposal as a House floor amendment later in the session. A colorful and sometimes brash supporter of gun rights, Cornish showed up at Tuesday's hearing wearing a tie with the NRA logo and a lapel pin shaped like an AK-47.

"I don't see anything happening with gun control this year," Cornish said.

Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.

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eaglei
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eaglei 02/06/13 - 01:46 am
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Wow....

It looks like dems are on track to hand control of the state back to Republicans with this one!

eaglei
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eaglei 02/06/13 - 01:46 am
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Wow....

It looks like dems are on track to hand control of the state back to Republicans with this one!

eaglei
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eaglei 02/06/13 - 01:46 am
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Wow....

It looks like dems are on track to hand control of the state back to Republicans with this one!

kcondon
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kcondon 02/06/13 - 11:16 am
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Unconstitutional

As a law abiding, legal citizen, it is my lawful right, guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States to keep and bear arms. I will NOT surrender to such idiocy.

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/06/13 - 12:06 pm
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Purposed

I hope you are right. I just read in S Mn paper that they have a S Savick sitting on this house committee. OH Lord help us!! She is one big Kook/Nutcase!! I still cant figure how she got in. Had to be all the Ilegal's.

charlie m
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charlie m 02/06/13 - 12:25 pm
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Teachers and Guns

The words "Teachers" and "Guns" should never be used in the same sentence. They are already under educated and over powered. You'll really have problems in schools then.

natorade
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natorade 02/06/13 - 01:15 pm
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Charlie:

Something we can agree on!

Teachers carrying guns on them is one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard.

We already have problems with pedophiles and creepy child porn addicts in our schools (not many, but it still happens) and some people want to give them guns to protect the children?

Not to mention, what would our reaction be if a teacher accidentally shot a kid in a school? Whether it was meant in good faith or not. Everyone would be outraged and want to get the guns out of schools again.

I'm a 2nd amendment supporter, but like Charlie said:

"The words "Teachers" and "Guns" should never be used in the same sentence. "

kcondon
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kcondon 02/06/13 - 01:18 pm
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Arm the Teachers

I don't care what you say. If the teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary had been armed, there would not have been 20 dead children.

kcondon
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kcondon 02/06/13 - 01:19 pm
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Arm the Teachers

I don't care what you say. If the teachers at Sandy Hook Elementary had been armed, there would not have been 20 dead children.

kcondon
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kcondon 02/06/13 - 01:21 pm
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...

sorry about the duplicate - stupid thing should let us delete when it posts twice!

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/06/13 - 01:31 pm
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I am just glad

My teacher's never had a gun on them. I probably would never had made it past 5th grade.

natorade
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natorade 02/06/13 - 01:39 pm
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I know most teachers are good

I know most teachers are good, and I can think of a few I had that still have an impact on me to this day. I also know of a few teachers I had growing up where if I knew they were concealing a loaded weapon, I would have been scared crapless.

All I did here was google "Minnesota teacher charged" and here is what came up:

http://www.myfoxtwincities.com/story/20378362/substitute-teacher-accused...

http://www.kare11.com/video/1797561594001/1/Former-MN-teacher-charged-in...

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2013/01/30/news/special-ed-...

And trust me there were many more. I think 99.9% of teachers are there to do good, but not all of them. I think just because a teacher is trained to use his/her weapon doesn't mean they should all be carrying guns into school.

As adults, parents, uncles, aunts, grandparents, so on... the idea of having responsible people watching over our children with guns sounds like a great idea... but they aren't always all that responsible and we have to think about how the kids will feel too.

Purposed: We all have bad days. Take my word that I will never get offended by anything anyone says on this forum. I can get heated and passionate too and you have nothing to apologize for.

natorade
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natorade 02/06/13 - 01:42 pm
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OldFarmBoy

You made another good point as I was typing up that long one. Again the idea sounds good, but we should all think about when we were in school and how we would feel.

I definitely had a number of teachers that weren't necessarily my best friend.

Bank robbers rarely have to fire their gun, but they still use it to get what they want. Think about that.

sadiemarriedlady
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sadiemarriedlady 02/06/13 - 01:55 pm
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How about a principal?

How about a principal? someone in the front office?
It, of course, would depend on where the school is and the setting. Teachers wouldn't have to but, there may be some that if they have the option, then they would put in the necessary effort. I think having the option for a school district to have a person with a concealed gun should be considered.
There are currently such situations as we know in out state areas that are far from police help.

I wish they would put some effort into the mental health issues first while trying to protect. Schools need to take down the "no guns allowed " signs.

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/06/13 - 01:59 pm
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I did have 1

Teacher that always had a gun in his pick-up though. Matter of fact he moved up here before I did & is still in area. Nice teacher & coach!!

Perpetuity
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Perpetuity 02/06/13 - 05:04 pm
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Here are a few things for you to ponder

1) Why is it that politicians and gun haters all want the restrictions on all of us legal gun owners? Can you explain that logic to me?

2) Why is it that politicians and gun haters cannot understand that passing 50,000,000 more gun restrictive laws will not stop one criminal from doing what they intend to do...?

3) Why is it that something that my friends and I enjoy doing, should be regulated to the point that we cannot afford to, or risk, doing? And now, additionally, taxed to death, to boot!

4) Why should there be new laws stating what legal gun owners can and cannot do? Why dont you people understand that the legal gun owners are not and will never be, the problem?

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 02/06/13 - 05:31 pm
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It's not about guns,

it's about control and power. First they ram Obama-Care through and now they are afraid of the fallout when the complete progam is revealed to be rip-off bankrupting disaster that all non-lefters said it was. The need us on our knees and subservient. the time has come to say NO!

Obey Obama or pay the price!

motleylarry
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motleylarry 02/06/13 - 07:13 pm
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Arming teachers is one of the

Arming teachers is one of the most insane ideas ever. All it would take is a strong door locked from the outside of the classroom.

ecocafemx
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ecocafemx 02/06/13 - 07:27 pm
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I will not listen nor accept

I will not listen nor accept any laws passed by our hack politicians. I will not accept or listen to the premise of any guns control debates..
I don't care about public school violence, that's what the gov't teaches every day in illigitimate wars so violence is going to happen when the powers condone it.
Should I ever have kid,not a cold day in hell would i put them in public school after I wasted 10 years of my life in one.. I'd be retired if I didn't have to go to school and probably have another 50 head of beef cattle on the ranch.. Waste of time, public schooling it is... We need a truly free-market schooling system not run by lazy unions

ecocafemx
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ecocafemx 02/06/13 - 07:27 pm
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I will not listen nor accept

I will not listen nor accept any laws passed by our hack politicians. I will not accept or listen to the premise of any guns control debates..
I don't care about public school violence, that's what the gov't teaches every day in illigitimate wars so violence is going to happen when the powers condone it.
Should I ever have kid,not a cold day in hell would i put them in public school after I wasted 10 years of my life in one.. I'd be retired if I didn't have to go to school and probably have another 50 head of beef cattle on the ranch.. Waste of time, public schooling it is... We need a truly free-market schooling system not run by lazy unions

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 02/06/13 - 08:07 pm
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Eco

This guy definetly likes you're thinking!!!! Free market schooling? The only problem is unions & dems!!! How can we fix that??

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