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Senate passes Gazelka bill on abortion-inducing drugs

Posted: April 24, 2012 - 7:22pm

Sen. Paul Gazelka’s bill relating to the administration of abortion-inducing drugs passed the Minnesota Senate Monday and is awaiting the signature of Gov. Mark Dayton.

A spokesperson for Dayton said the governor has not yet indicated how he will act on Gazelka’s bill.

The Senate passed House File 2341 (SF 1912), Gazelka announced in a news release, in an effort to protect women from the risk of death or serious complications resulting from administration of abortion-inducing drugs. The bill, chief-authored by the rural Brainerd Republican, requires a physician to be physically present when any drug or chemical is used by a patient for the purpose of inducing abortion. Minnesota Citizens Concerned for Life (MCCL) supported this measure.

“I am glad to have the support of my colleagues in the Senate as we work to protect life – both mother and unborn child. It’s common sense to have a physician present when performing a major medical procedure, especially in the case of abortion because it carries serious risks. Administration of the RU486 abortion drug can leave female patients with complications in their reproductive, cardiovascular, digestive, and central nervous systems and patients can even lose their lives,” Gazelka said in his statement. “I am dedicated to protecting mothers and unborn babies and I hope Governor Dayton signs this important bill.”

The House passed HF 2341 on Friday.

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fishhead
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fishhead 04/25/12 - 06:41 am
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Tell the truth Paul

Baloney from the baloney king. At least be honest about your intent when you try to force your narrow view of religion into our lives.

We take medication every day that can have serious complications including death.

I don't see Gazelka even talking about requiring a doctor to be present when we take those medications because they don't make it harder for a woman to control her reproduction.

Why are republicans so intent on controlling women's lady parts?

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 04/25/12 - 07:13 am
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Oh Fish

Maybe if you were married so she could give you your daily Meds you would understand?

muehlbau
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muehlbau 04/25/12 - 07:53 am
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Yes, Fish, why would anyone

Yes, Fish, why would anyone want to ensure that a woman's health is protected when it might interfere with an abortionist's plan to make a quick buck? Abortion is not good for women, no matter how much men want to believe it is.

barco
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barco 04/25/12 - 08:15 am
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Why is fish even allowed to

Why is fish even allowed to post? Grrrrr same ole crud

ProudRINO
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ProudRINO 04/25/12 - 08:19 am
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Paul Gazelka's sole reason for being

This is it. This is what Gazelka focuses most of his time in the legislature on. Not finding a way to resolve the budget deficit. Not working to pay the piper that they made necessary by refusing to deal with basic fiscally conservative budget protocol in past sessions. Not working to create jobs.

This is also what got him elected to a leadership position in his party, telling you what you get when you elect a member of that party these days.

I'm not a big choice proponent by any means--and christian faith is important to me. I am just sick and tired of people like Paul Gazelka thinking THIS is what we elected them for!

muehlbau
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muehlbau 04/25/12 - 08:58 am
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It is ONE of the things we

It is ONE of the things we elected him for, RINO. I don't know about you, but I expect my elected officials to be able to manage multiple priorities. If they can only legislate one thing, that's pretty weak. Furthermore, acting like the only thing Gazelka is working on is pro-life legislation is baloney. He's working on a wide variety of legislative duties, and I suspect you know it.

lakelander
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lakelander 04/25/12 - 10:31 am
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RU-486

Is currently taken under a doctor's supervision. The patient is in the office and being monitored in a professional clinic.

I do not see the need to legislate and micro-manage the medical profession in the way this bill does. This is not the way to show you believe in small government and personal responsibility.

Do you realize currently surgeons are performing surgeries from a distance via electronic methods?

I still feel that this is not a job creating piece of legislation for Crow Wing County and that was what Gazelka campaigned on. Maybe he campaigned behind church doors on a different agenda. This time we know his platform.

lendad
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lendad 04/25/12 - 09:01 am
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Posting Limits

Every time I read comments from the likes of fishhead I wonder why the BDD doesn't limit the number of posts per person. Idiotic ramblings are at first entertaining, but soon grow nauseating.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 04/25/12 - 11:18 am
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lendad, you'd better include

lakelander's above post in that classification.

The lakelander post I was referring to said something like: Does that mean that men should have to have a doctor in the bedroom with them to use Viagra as it could also cause death. It implied that women were being discriminated against. It not a very intelligent statement and she deleted it to cover up and reposted.

muehlbau
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muehlbau 04/25/12 - 09:21 am
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Lakelander, your logic fails.

Lakelander, your logic fails. First of all, I can't imagine that a doctor ISN'T present when Viagra is prescribed. But secondly, the abortion pill is not taken repeatedly for an ongoing condition, like erectile dysfunction, it is taken once.

This is what the law requires:

"when RU-486 or any other drug or chemical is used for the purpose of inducing an abortion, the drug or chemical must be administered in the same room and in the physical presence of the physician who prescribed, dispensed, or otherwise provided the drug or the chemical to the patient. This subdivision also requires the physician inducing the abortion, or a person acting on behalf of the physician, to make all reasonable efforts to ensure that the patient returns 12 to 18 days after the administration or use of the drug or chemical for a follow up visit to confirm that a pregnancy has been terminated and to assess the patient’s medical condition. A description of the efforts taken must be included in the patient’s medical record."

Hardly seems unreasonable, does it?

OldFarmBoy
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OldFarmBoy 04/25/12 - 09:42 am
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I guess we

Can tell the 1st & 7th poster must be related. You know the old saying? The family roots & branches dont grow very far from a telephone pole.

punke_1995
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punke_1995 04/25/12 - 10:21 am
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Who is protecting the unborn child here?

I am completely confused...how does administering a drug that causes abortion protect an unborn child?

muehlbau
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muehlbau 04/25/12 - 10:37 am
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Obviously, it doesn't,

Obviously, it doesn't, punke_1995. This legislation is to protect the life of the woman having the abortion. Since it is not currently possible to prevent abortions without a reversal of Roe v. Wade or a constitutional amendment, sometimes the best we can hope for is to stop abortionists from taking reckless liberties with women's lives.

punke_1995
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punke_1995 04/25/12 - 10:57 am
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:(

...still makes me sad...

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 04/25/12 - 11:03 am
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You've got to love

How lakelander edited out the garbage she posted at about 9:00 and replaced it with a totally different set of comments at 10:31. Too bad lake, we all saw what you posted the first time and you didn't get away clean. the next time I see a comment like that I'll copy it before you can edit it.

ProudRINO
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ProudRINO 04/25/12 - 11:32 am
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Muehlbau has it twisted up to suit, punk_1995

Here's the truth. This is one of those nationwide republican action items that came to the legislators in this state as a canned action item to please the extreme base of the republican party--particularly the single issue MN Citizens Concerned for Life (MCCL).

There is NO problem with administration of this pill in MN.

My understanding is that one clinic has done it via video conferencing. A patient would have been sitting in one clinic while consulting with doctors in another clinic some distance away via a video conference. If they were deemed a good safe candidate for taking this pill, then they were sent on their way with one.

Again this was a nationwide issue. Republicans in MN and all other states were instructed to try and find a single instance of a remote conference Rx of this pill, then shoot for legislation to ban the practice.

You see, they already put on so many restrictions and there are so many nutjobs out there that clinics that offer such pills and abortion services have been limited greatly. In most of this state, a woman has no such facility within HUNDREDS of miles.

The health issues with RX of this pill are real--but minute--and those problems are decreased even more with a good doctor/patient discussion of their use and the patient's situation

And the problems with this pill do pale in comparison with so many other drugs. The Viagra comparison is a great one.

Not only is incidence of those who have a problem and die from taking viagra by themselves outside of a doctors office MUCH higher than those who die or have serious trouble with abortion pills adminestered correctly (as the law ALREADY requires)--but the % is too.

In simple terms--the chances of dying from taking viagra are MUCH higher than the chances of dying from taking an abortion pill.

And thousdands--likely hundreds of thousands--more people take viagra in MN than this abortion pill. Yet they don't require anyone to take their viagra in a doctor's office.

Make no mistake---this is not about health, this is not about safety--it's all about a national plan to restrict abortion availability!

ProudRINO
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ProudRINO 04/25/12 - 11:29 am
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And also....

This is yet another issue that has a very low chance of being signed by Dayton. VERY low. Thus it is wasted work by Gazelka and others.

The same as the gay marriage amendment--that's not currently legal anyway-- but they had to spend several years of work in the legislature to pass an amendment.

An amendement allowing us to to vote that something that isn't legal should not be legal.

How incredibly wasteful is that?

I want my legislator to tackle work that IS achievable and attack the biggest issues facing people today.

The economy, jobs, and countless other issues are MUCH more important to the average MN citizen than spending one second on things that aren't legal anyway or aren't a problem anyway.

Gazelka and others work countless hours--on OUR dime--on these things for PARTISAN purposes. He is not working for the good of the people when doing so!

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 04/25/12 - 11:23 am
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It could also be murder

if someone takes the pill home and gives it to someone else without their knowlege.

I_disagree_with_dems
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I_disagree_with_dems 04/25/12 - 11:29 am
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i have a simple solution

dont want a baby dont have intercourse. Problem solved and it is as simple as that. Do the action,

Now the left will come back with their mumbo jumbo on incest and assault related pregnancies. I am all for allowing those if the mother chooses to do so, but please spare us with any argument in support of this drug because of incest and assault. That is a small part of the aborting populations.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 04/25/12 - 11:46 am
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rino

"Your" legislators were in charge and got us into the position we are in and some of us didn't like that either.

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The Dude 04/25/12 - 12:38 pm
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I dissagree with Dems, the

I dissagree with Dems, the only time that you have intercourse is when you want to have a baby. You either have a lot of kids or live a horrible life. Live a little~!

I_disagree_with_dems
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I_disagree_with_dems 04/25/12 - 02:41 pm
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dude

Huge difference living your life wisely and living it like a buffoon. How about some self responsibility for your actions?

I dont have any kids and been married for 7 years. We havent wanted kids and guess what, we dont have any, huh. I guess when you are smart enough to protect yourself from an unwanted pregnancy it is a totally different thing and you can make comments like I did.

It actually takes brains and self control to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Sure mistakes happen but when properly use protection, it is VERY unlikely you will have an unwanted pregnancy, say like over 99%.

So in other words, I choose to as you say it, "live." I just choose to live wisely. Do you dude, how many kids you got running around that you didnt plan?

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graydo 04/25/12 - 02:47 pm
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When did the DFL morph into

When did the DFL morph into the party that is so indifferent to the shedding of innocent blood? It used to be the party of people like Rudy Perpich and Steve Wenzel. Now it is going in a much darker direction...

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eyolf 04/25/12 - 04:33 pm
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Disagreeable?

Disagreeable? You got a link that shows what percentage of children are concieved during rapes and assaults? I bet its a lot larger than you think. Many times women won't admit they were forced to, er, "participate".

Your mindset also suggests that young unmarried women should always be squired by their fathers or older brothers, and by their husbands if they are married. Sorry, bud, but that ship sailed a long time ago. Women WILL attempt to enjoy the same freedoms men do, and whether you want to inflict consequences (forced pregnancies) on them to "punish" them for their arrogance, or not, society has changed.

Maybe we need to learn a lot of things; how many parents teach their kids about sexual responsibility in this day and age? I read recently about an Evangelical Christian group that is now recommending sex education to teens; the idea wasn't to teach abstinence only, as saying "no" isn't working. The idea was to prepare young people with the knowledge of how and why their bodies worked so as to prepare them to make wise, reasoned choices about when to indulge and how to select mates.

lakelander
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lakelander 04/25/12 - 05:34 pm
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drug deaths

from RU486: 14 maternal deaths
from erectile dysfunction drugs: 2200

Maybe, Gazelka is working on the wrong pill bill.

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fishhead 04/25/12 - 06:18 pm
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It's dishonest of Gazelka to

It's dishonest of Gazelka to claim this is to protect women when he makes NO EFFORT whatsoever to protect men from medications that can cause injury or death.

Why doesn't he include men in the bill? Why doesn't he require US to have a doctor present? The answer of course is that that wouldn't hinder abortions.

As usual the so-called prolifers ignore anything that doesn't fit their obsession.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 04/25/12 - 08:05 pm
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lakelander

"drug deaths

By lakelander | 04/25/12 - 05:34 pm

from RU486: 14 maternal deaths
from erectile dysfunction drugs: 2200

Maybe, Gazelka is working on the wrong pill bill."
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Research? Links? What time frame? How long have each been available? How many people have used each? Or is this another liberalstistic?

Probably several thousand poson pills have been dispensed and a billion erectile dysfunction pills. Just another liberal lie here folks, move along now.

lakelander
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lakelander 04/25/12 - 09:46 pm
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RU486

1.52 million dispensed
viagra and related ED drugs...who knows, they are available on the internet without prescription.

If you were a scholar, UFUB, you would do your own research and then come back here and post with footnotes and sources which contradict my findings.

lakelander
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lakelander 04/25/12 - 09:39 pm
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oops

that post went on twice.

Fair n Balanced
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Fair n Balanced 04/25/12 - 09:56 pm
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If you were reputable

you would have posted proof of your ascertation when you made it. Instead you do the liberal trick and throw out unfounded accusations. No wonder no one wants to take you left-wingnuts serously. Prove your stuff when you say it or just don't say it.We can listen to Obama every day if we want that kind of propaganda.

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