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CROW WING COUNTY BOARD: Human rights commission dropped

Posted: October 11, 2011 - 7:46pm
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Crow Wing County Human Rights Commission Chair Joshua Heintzeman  left) and his wife Keri Heintzeman, secretary of the commission, spoke Tuesday at a hearing before the Crow Wing County Board about their experiences on the commission.  Brainerd Dispatch/ Steve Kohls
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Crow Wing County Human Rights Commission Chair Joshua Heintzeman left) and his wife Keri Heintzeman, secretary of the commission, spoke Tuesday at a hearing before the Crow Wing County Board about their experiences on the commission.

 

The Crow Wing County human rights commission was abolished Tuesday in a 4-1 board vote. 

Commissioner Rachel Reabe Nystrom was the lone vote in favor of keeping the human rights ordinance that created the commission in 1998. 

More recently, the Human Rights Commission has been the subject of contention and friction among its members. 

Tuesday’s public hearing brought about 40 people to the board room. Many voiced their opinions both for and against the commission to commissioners during a hearing that lasted nearly two hours. 

“To be honest,” said Commissioner Phil Trusty, “I was disappointed.” 

Trusty said he wanted to see if there was support for the commission and hear how it interacted with the community. 

Those in favor of keeping the commission said it added weight to the goal of promoting human rights in the community and served an educational role. Those against said the commission was redundant and served little to no purpose. 

In recent days, the issue of whether to have a Human Rights Commission or not took on a partisan tone. That continued Tuesday, although Crow Wing County Board Chairman Paul Thiede said while the subject has been part of heated conversation he would not allow inflammatory language before the board. 

Father David Gallus, League of Minnesota Human Rights Commission district director, said differences are not just about race and color but about all kinds of differences. Gallus said the role of the  Human Rights Commission is to promote harmony and respect for the rights of all. If the commission failed it was not the fault of human rights but perhaps the members needed to be changed, Gallus said. 

“To me it’s not a political issue. As a clergyman — for me — it’s a moral issue,” Gallus said. 

Terry Sluss, who was on the county board when the human rights ordinance was adopted, said he realized there were contentious situations and personality issues but he urged the board to allow additional time for others to step forward.

Roger Lynn, retired United Methodist minister from Crosslake and executive director of Crow Wing County Youth Wellness Initiative, strongly urged the board to keep the commission, noting its role in education. Lynn said a concern is having a community that welcomes and supports youths not just for the future but for the present and human rights is an issue close to many youths active in the community. 

Guy Green, Brainerd, said what the board was hearing in public testimony was symptomatic of many problems in American Society today. 

“Crow Wing County is not brimming with racial tension,” Green said. 

Nystrom said Willie Navy, who was the victim of a racially motivated beating in Brainerd, may not agree. 

“We may not be brimming with racial tension, but there is racial tension,” Nystrom said. 

Green said the Human Rights Commission had no accountability, no attendance and had an abundance of representation from the DFL Party and accusations of racism at the drop of a hat. 

“The population of this county and this country are tired of that,” Green said.

Green said reshuffling the chairs was not a solution as the state Department of Human Rights, police and population and schools are immersed and bathed in diversity and multiculturalism on a continuous basis.

Several residents said the commission was set up to receive a percentage of a fine if a business was fined by the state, which they strongly disagreed with. William Durham, who regularly attended Human Rights Commission meetings, said state records regarding that are itemized and show no payment to the commission. Durham also questioned all the talk about accountability issues, saying grant requirements were met and satisfied and expenses noted with the auditor’s office without money lost or unaccounted for.  

Rep. John Ward, DFL-Brainerd, said it was ironic and sad to be debating whether to have the human rights ordinance on the same day the Minnesota Supreme Court justices were arriving in Brainerd. 

“I’m also saddened this issue has become a partisan issue,” Ward said. “... It’s not a Democrat or Republican issue. It’s an issue that deals with respect, dignity, diversity, tolerance of all of our people.”

Ward said human rights are not one party’s platform but is part of an American issue. Ward said he found it was concerning that five people would make a determination he saw as a slam-dunk decision because he lived discrimination and bullying. 

“When I was younger before the Equal Opportunity Act, I was discriminated against and bullied both. I lost jobs because of my arm,” Ward said. “I remember that only too well. Those issues are very real and important to many people in this county.”

Thiede took issue with Ward’s comments about five people making the decision as five people made the decision to create the Human Rights Commission. 

Maggie Tiede, 16, Remer, a Central Lakes College student and member of the executive board of the diversity leadership council, spoke in favor of keeping the commission. 

“I am a member of many diverse communities here and I would really hate to see Crow Wing County be a county that doesn’t put human rights first,” Tiede said, adding she couldn’t see a community that doesn’t put human rights first as one where she’d like to spend her adulthood. 

Doug Kern, who said his son was a victim of bullying, said when human rights are violated they should be prosecuted but he was bothered by a monetary reward system for finding violators. 

“That is totally wrong,” Kern said, adding he agreed with Green’s comments. 

An Unorganized Territory resident said the commission was a conflict of personalities, inactive and ineffective and should be eliminated. He said if someday in the future it could be effective he would be in favor of it, but not now. 

Yvonne Leiser, one of the original signers on a petition for the human rights commission in 1998, read from a list of early supporters. Leiser said although the commission has stumbled she urged the county board to give it a chance to be productive.

Jeff Czeczok said the board and other community leaders were criticized for not attending a human rights gathering after the Navy beating but they weren’t there because they didn’t need to be educated on human rights. The Constitution is taught in high school, he said. 

“Nobody is asking or questioning the need for human rights,” Czeczok said. “Everybody knows what human rights are. If you don’t understand it, can you be educated? I don’t think so.”

Thiede at first took exception to Czeczok’s remarks, misunderstanding him to say board members should have attended. Thiede said it wasn’t necessary for the board to attend every meeting or read every Vox Pop published in the Dispatch to be informed and he wasn’t going to let Czeczok take swipes at the board. 

“I’m not doing that,” Czeczok said, adding he thanked the board for not going. 

County resident Mike Murphy said the commission wasn’t needed and has already shown it doesn’t work. 

“It doesn’t mean you guys don’t care about human rights,” Murphy said. “We’re wasting too much time here on it. Let’s get rid of it.”

Paul Mans, county resident with a diverse family, said in 1990 a group formed a Habitat for Humanity chapter here, which went through several changes but kept going and now is building its 75th home. Mans urged the board to give the commission a chance to improve. 

Human Rights Commission Chairman Josh Heintzeman and Secretary Keri Heintzeman previously told the board they thought the commission, which has struggled to get quorums for meetings, could be disbanded and didn’t have a long list of successes. 

Commissioner Doug Houge said he struggled to see any accomplishments by the board. Nystrom pointed to the annual human rights award, which highlights leaders in human rights in the community and said she had emails from about 13 people willing to serve. 

Commissioner Rosemary Franzen said there are only two counties in the state with a commission and just 5 percent of cities have such commissions. 

“I don’t think there is any debate we support human rights,” Franzen said, adding the county opposed discrimination and welcomes diversity. “I do believe we are a duplication of service.” 

The Heintzemans said the discussion wasn’t covering facts and issues facing the commission. 

“The facts are this organization has leaned heavily toward one side politically in terms of its influence and there is a part of us that feels that is being ignored,” Josh Heintzeman said.

The Heintzemans told the commissioners they walked out of the last county board meeting on Sept. 13 when the board voted to set Tuesday’s public hearing and fellow Human Rights Commission member Taylor Stevenson made a threatening comment in the hall.  

Josh Heintzeman later called Stevenson and recorded their conversation. Tuesday, the Heintzemans read from a transcript of that conversation where Stevenson apologized to them for any threatening comments. Keri Heintzeman said Stevenson told the Dispatch he didn’t remember making those comments but she didn’t think he would forget and then provide a lengthy apology to them over the phone. 

Nystrom asked if Stevenson was aware they were recording him to which Josh Heintzeman said it’s legal to record someone without their knowledge. The Heintzemans reported Stevenson said he could have people phone in death threats to those opposed to the group. The Heintzemans said that comment was threatening to the commissioners. The Brainerd Police Department received a report about the issue last Thursday.

The Heintzemans said that fact that nobody was talking about it was shocking to them. Keri Heintzeman said they care about human rights and that Stevenson’s alleged threat is a violation of human rights. 

Josh Heintzeman said he felt their credibility was being challenged by a story in the Dispatch in Tuesday’s edition in which they felt portrayed them as liars because their testimony was damaging to a future of a human rights commission. The Heintzemans said they were doing the best they could to give an accurate representation of their experience on the commission. 

“Josh and I are not liars on this,” Keri Heintzeman said. “We are just concerned citizens trying to do the right thing.”

Nystrom said with Stevenson, a former DFL candidate for office, and the Heintzemans active Republicans, it didn’t sound like the commissioner involved partisanship to her. Keri Heintzeman said she was referring to the past and noted an incident in 2005 when the commission took issue with comments Paul Koering made when he scared away would-be robbers from his Brainerd liquor store when he said crime is something that comes with growth. 

Josh Heintzeman said the issue with Stevenson only cemented in their minds the commission is a partisan organization.

“And it doesn’t make any sense why it should continue forward in terms of its accomplishments and its abilities to truly resolve any of the issues that might come to this county,” Josh Heintzeman said. 

Thiede cautioned against further discussion based on partisanship that would draw the board into that debate. 

“I, for one, will resist to my death that this becomes a partisan issue at this table,” Thiede said. “I think partisan politics are part of our reality today but being drawn in because there is a partisan squabble going on out in the community is unnecessary in my mind.”

After Tuesday’s meeting, Durham, who was present in the hall on Sept. 13, said he did not remember the type of statement the Heintzemans did nor the tone in what he thought was a civil discussion. 

Contacted later Tuesday, Stevenson said when Josh Heintzeman called him he didn’t remember making the comment or not but understood Heintzeman was bothered by it and apologized saying it was a stupid, flippant comment that didn’t have any more meaning and was done in the same seriousness as a comment about the Vikings offensive line on Sundays.

Stevenson said he never should have said anything like it but was in a conversation with people he considered friends. Weeks later it became a police investigation and front page discussion.

“I have to apologize whether I said it or not for this becoming a distraction in what is an important debate,” he said regarding the future of the human rights commission. 

 

RENEE RICHARDSON may be reached at renee.richardson@brainerddispatch.com or 855-5852.

 

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lildrummer
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lildrummer 10/12/11 - 12:29 am
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Well?

Is Tay denying that he said this or not?
Who would apologize for something they 'forgot' they said, and then text another apology for saying the same thing the very next time he saw the people who were distressed by the original comment?
Can't recall doing this? C'mon, Tay.
Sure glad this kid didn't wind up as our state senator.

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gourmet 10/12/11 - 03:09 am
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Kiss your political future bye-bye, Tay-Tay!!

Unless you're following our VP Biden's gaffe habit. If so, it's a bad strategy. I love watching this on youtube, the only thing better than watching John Ward give his Buddy Hackett impersonation was the filth and vermin at the Hennepin Co. Gov't Center today (Occupy Mpls/Wallstreet). I was in town and just had to go witness this abomination.

We need a human rights commission in CWC about as much as we need a (insert any silly, happy thought, politically correct idea here).

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zachnos 10/12/11 - 06:43 am
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Dear Gourmet

Your comments above prove why we need a human rights commission.

lakelander
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lakelander 10/12/11 - 06:51 am
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secret taping

Reminds me of that guy James O'Keefe and his taping at the Louisiana Senator's office. Beware of these folks or you might end up on You Tube! Is that condoned by their Senator Gazelka? Glad there is a photo of them, so I can duck if I see them and keep silent! LOL!

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wolfg1 10/12/11 - 08:00 am
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Didn't this board gibe out an

Didn't this board/commission give out an award every year? I couldn't find a list of recipients. Anyone have a link/list?

GetaGrip
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GetaGrip 10/12/11 - 08:05 am
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"...... and didn’t have a

"...... and didn’t have a long list of successes....."

"Commissioner Doug Houge said he struggled to see any accomplishments by the board. Nystrom pointed to the annual human rights award...."

LOL....and the best example of an accomplishment Nystrom can use to defend her position is to articulate some feel-good activity such as handing out the annual human rights award? That's hilarious!! Typical progressive approach -we'll all just feel better if we establish a commission and as part of the commission we'll hand out an award......ah human rights achieved!!! Success and victory is ours!!!

wolfg1
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wolfg1 10/12/11 - 08:17 am
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While I believe some on this

While I believe some on this commission were sincere in their reasons for volunteering, I believe there were others who saw this as a way to possibly win an award and get an easy ticket punch on their resume to further their own personal agenda.

moonhawk
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moonhawk 10/12/11 - 08:25 am
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usual dfl

they whine because they turned it political? what a waste of time and i hope t. stevensons political game is OVER! sluss claims credit for the idea yet can't make a move without move-on.org! thanks to the board for the right action!

GetaGrip
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GetaGrip 10/12/11 - 08:54 am
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So lake – It appears that you

So lake – It appears that you are suggesting that the taping of the conversation is a much more egregious offense than the actual threat made by T. Stevenson? Boy, you must have really hated that whole Watergate issue.

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Denton Newman Jr 10/12/11 - 09:00 am
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RE: Didn't this board gi(v)e out an

Wolfg1, Here's what I pieced together from past articles:

Previous winners were Martha Smolka Anderson (2004), Jan Kurtz (2005), Paul Mans (2006), Dr. Paul Milloy (2007) and Sara Dunlap (2008), Dick Endres (2009), Corrie Woodwick and Steve Rosenow (2010)

The first Human Rights Award (2004) was given to Martha Smolka Anderson for her dedication to providing services to the mentally ill and their families.

The second annual human rights award was given to Jan Kurtz, Fort Ripley, for her promotion of cultural diversity in her mission of public education of foreign language and culture.

Paul Mans was recently selected at the 2005 recipient of the third annual Crow Wing County Human Rights Award. Mans has volunteered in the Brainerd lakes area for the past 17 years, helping to establish the Habitat for Humanity office in Brainerd, expanding camping experiences at the Confidence Learning Center and giving his time to Kinship Partners.

Dr. Paul Milloy of East Gull Lake was chosen by the Crow Wing County Human Rights Commission (2007) for his voluntary participation for years on many medical mission trips abroad.

Sara Dunlap was chosen by the commission because of her voluntary actions of cultural inclusion that have demonstrated the values of the human rights commission.

Dick Endres, founder and longtime director of Confidence Learning Center, is this year's (2009) recipient of the Crow Wing County Human Rights Award. Endres was singled out for his advocacy of the rights of the developmentally disabled to live as full a life as possible.

Steve Rosenow received the award from the Crow wing County Human Rights Commission for his work with veterans. Rosenow, a Vietnam veteran and former Crow Wing County veterans service officer, was singled out for his work for veterans and their families and for 30 years of volunteer work on veterans' issues.

Corrie Woodwick is the president and founder of the Lakes Area Diversity Council, a social network for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people in the Brainerd area.

INADVERTENTLY MISSED AND ADDED:

Marcia Ferris the winner of the Crow Wing County Human Rights Award for 2011. Ferris was credited with being one of the primary movers behind the establishment of the Crow Wing County Human Rights Commission. Ferris' nominating letter cited her long history of volunteering and advocating for human rights.

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anniejo 10/12/11 - 09:01 am
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"I believe there were others

"I believe there were others who saw this as a way to possibly win an award and get an easy ticket punch on their resume to further their own personal agenda."

wolfy, a week ago you knew little or nothing about the CWCHRC and less about the volunteers who comprised it's
membership. Your comment is based entirely on partisan political conjecture with absolutely no basis in fact. Maybe you can become a local correspondent for Fox Noise.

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Marjorie 10/12/11 - 09:30 am
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The Commission had a long

The Commission had a long list of accomplishments including providing a voice for those who faced discrimination in our community and in educating the public about diversity and inclusion for all people. Several events over the past years were held in the Community and were well attended. Past events also included promoting tolerance/acceptance in schools and support for MLK events. The HRC having an award yearly was also a huge accomplishment but it was not the only one.

Being a local resource for people facing discrimination issues is vital. For those who struggle with discrimination, knowing that there was a board of committed individuals who showed compassion and care about their situation is vital to a community that should support inclusion.

Reports of racial profiling by the police, housing discrimination, hate crimes, and gender bias are common in this area. To say that we just don't have problems with discrimination is an outright lie. Yesterday, several white men stood up and stated at the meeting, "we don't have a problem with racism in our area". I beg to differ, and I certainly won't trust someone with privilege saying these problems don't exist. This area is known for these problems and now we are known as an area that abolished our Human Rights Commission. It's quite troubling.

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Oakleaf 10/12/11 - 10:30 am
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Wolfg1 - are you now willing to remove or adjust your 8:17 post?

at 8:17am your post included: "While I believe some on this commission were sincere in their reasons for volunteering, I believe there were others who saw this as a way to possibly win an award and get an easy ticket punch on their resume to further their own personal agenda."
Has the information provided by Denton helped you? It seems that the awardees did NOT SERVE on the Human Rights Commission.

[If you'll edit your posting, or post a newer posting - I'll remove this posting.]

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eslette 10/12/11 - 10:36 am
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Local Human Rights Commission

I attended and spoke in favor of a local Human Rights Commission at the hearing yesterday. This community needs Human Rights education, guidance and most of all self-awareness and sensitivity to the human rights of others. A local Human Rights Commission could be a strong resource provided members function professionally with a work plan. We have a list of 7 professional people willing to serve. The community has the need, professional people are ready to serve, where do we find our structure to support our initiatives?
Ellie Slette, Crosby MN

I_disagree_with_dems
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I_disagree_with_dems 10/12/11 - 10:45 am
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oakleaf, how come you never remove your wrongful posts?

maybe quit asking someone to do something you will not do.

remove all your wrongful posts oakleaf and I will remove this one, hahahahahahahahaha

JohnBrown
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JohnBrown 10/12/11 - 11:02 am
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@Ellie

You can form a nonprofit corporation in Minnesota for $70.

You can apply for tax exempt status with the IRS by filing Form 1023 or Form 1024 along with Form 8718 and $850.

Boom, you have a Human Rights Commission. Now you can fix all the injustices in the Brainerd Lakes Area. Best of luck to you.

wolfg1
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wolfg1 10/12/11 - 11:22 am
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Thanks for the info,

Thanks for the info, Denton.

Annie - My perceptions.

Oak - No.

Vincent
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Vincent 10/12/11 - 11:33 am
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Disappointing Denny!

Denton, did you intentionally omit the 2011 Human Rights Award Recipient?
Perhaps you may recall she was/is a current member of the now abolished CWC-HRC and didn’t believe children in their mother’s womb were afforded human rights?

Are you not also portraying a modest amount of political partisanship on this subject yourself?

Jeff Czeczok

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OldFarmBoy 10/12/11 - 11:35 am
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Good behavior???

Wolf looks like somebody got out on good behavior today???
I have not seen on here for awhile. But wait where is the other morning Socialist??

Denton Newman Jr
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Denton Newman Jr 10/12/11 - 11:38 am
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RE: Disappointing Denny!

No Jeff, I didn't intentionally omit information. I will look right now to find it and add any I find.
I only added info because wolfg1 asked for more info.

wolfg1
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wolfg1 10/12/11 - 11:42 am
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"Wolf looks like somebody got

"Wolf looks like somebody got out on good behavior today???"

What?

snackfu
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snackfu 10/12/11 - 11:48 am
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All political posturing aside...

So let me get this straight:

This entity costs the county no money.

It gives awards to people involved in what seem to be very worthy causes.

There has been some friction amongst the members.

A man was severely beaten in Brainerd by people who specifically targeted him for the color of his skin, yet those opposed to this entity claim there is no racism at all in the area.

Those opposed to this group claim they haven't done anything.

So...

the solution seems to be to destroy the organization from within rather than find people who are willing to serve and run it the right way.

I guess I don't really care all that much, but it seems silly to destroy something that costs no money and has done some good. While it may need to be reworked with new members who adhere to meeting procedure, it could prove beneficial in the future if all of the bickering and in-fighting could be eliminated.

Oh, and if you cut out the cancers who specifically joined the group to destroy it for some reason.

Denton Newman Jr
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Denton Newman Jr 10/12/11 - 11:49 am
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Found missed information

I found the last award winner article (Marcia Ferris 2011) that Jeff (thanks!) let me know I missed and added her info to my earlier post above.

Oakleaf
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Oakleaf 10/12/11 - 01:30 pm
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Vincent - There's an error in your 11:33 posting

Vincent - There's an error in your 11:33 posting - you said "Perhaps you may recall she was/is a current member of the now abolished CWC-HRC".

Marcia Ferris was an award winner. She never served on the Human Rights Commission. None of the awardees have served on the Human Rights Commission.

I'll remove this posting if you'll remove yours (or correct yours).

Vincent
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Vincent 10/12/11 - 12:37 pm
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Pay attention Oak

Check Denton's list again.

Vincent
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Vincent 10/12/11 - 12:40 pm
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Considering...

that unborn babies are the most vulnerable among us, shouldn't they be granted the same human rights as any of us outside the womb?

JVC

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muehlbau 10/12/11 - 12:55 pm
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How was the commission funded?

The article says that the commission received grant money. Where did that grant money come from?

muehlbau
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muehlbau 10/12/11 - 01:41 pm
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How much public money did they receive?

Methinks the funding came from a public source. Why else would the County Commissioners have a thing to say about this group? Does anyone have information about how much public money they were receiving?

JohnBrown
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JohnBrown 10/12/11 - 02:02 pm
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@muehl

A simple google will show the commission's revenue and expenses from 2004-2011.

They received $500 a year from the county up until 2010.

snackfu
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snackfu 10/12/11 - 03:14 pm
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@barnet69

you said: please, snack. Love the drive by ambush.

If they were interested in human rights and what this group stood for, they would not have jumped on board and within months decided that this worthy entity should be dismantled.

Clearly these people infiltrated the HRC with the intent of destroying it. Why else would they offer to jump on board in January after complaining about the way the meetings were run, actually have a commissioner say that those not attending could be removed from the commission, then testify that this group that they volunteered to join (presumably because it could do some good) should be disbanded.

That's not an ambush, that's calling it like it is. If the Heintzemans were interested in the HRC, they would have looked at ways to make it functional (follow Robert's Rules of Order, take minutes at meeting, remove members who weren't serving but wouldn't resign, and replace those positions with the many people who have expressed an interest. Instead, they testify that it is worthless, has no real authority, and no real successes.

One question: Why did you join if it wasn't to try to put together some successes? Why, less than a year later, are you testifying before the county that it should be scrapped? What was your motivation for joining?

As I said, I don't really care all that much. But I know when some underhanded things are going on and this is a classic example.

I stand by my original question: Why are we disbanding something that can do some good by recognizing those who do good works, and doesn't cost the county any money? Why are the newbies to the commission disparaging it and supporting its demise?

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